Space Terminus doesn't include all my discovered systems or my base, why?

[DarkBalrog8000]

Hey,
I just got sent to a new system, after a guest about finding artemis (then realising she is dead, but can be recovered). Now i can't use the space terminus in that system to teleport back to my base or any other system I discovered before i started this quest. Does anyone know why?
I have relogged, and swapped between the two shown systems - doesnt help.

This is what i see at the terminus: https://gyazo.com/b1266e6ec0049982d95a292afc4fb09a

[Betelgeuse]

i think it's just part of the mission. If i remember well you get transported into a dull place and cant do anything there, i believe you just have to continue the main quest then you'll be able to get to normal.

[knighttemplar1960]

It sounds like portal interference. You'll have to go back to the planet that has the portal and use the portal to go back to where you were before. The teleporters should work as usual afterwards.

[Adarynin]

I don't want to cause alarm, but everyone talking about seeing Hofunakab and Nasher in their teleport list says it in context of being trapped there....
https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/btyj0j/psa_beware_where_you_teleport/
https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/bkd038/stuck_in_glitched_system_hofunakab_stellar/
https://steamcommunity.com/app/275850/discussions/0/3570700856109852155/
https://steamcommunity.com/app/275850/discussions/0/1652169858538023361/
Try zooming out in the star map as far as possible, do you find any stars?

PS: For others searching for this problem, it is also known as "I'm stuck on planet Bensavirgin".

[Däguas]

It seem like the bug Andarynin is referencing. Although if you were in one of those systems it should say '(current system)' after the destination if you are there. I am compiling info on this bug and it's fixes right now. Could you verify for me the galaxy and system names of your current location for me? It can be fixed in about five minutes with the NMS save editor. If you have a galactic address from prior to this bug you can be put right back. If not you can still be put back in Euclid ( I haven't had confirmation from the last person I helped to do this if they were then able to teleport back to their exact system but it would make sense ).

[Adarynin]

Däguas, thanks for collecting info, I assume you‘ll post it on the Zendesk?

You‘ll find many posts about it searching for Nasher/hofunakab/ bensavirgin. Also look out for threads that revolve around being stuck in the center of the 265th galaxy, or on a planet full of player bases, or that bases are missing from the teleporter list, or that the star map is empty (not always related).

On xbox, the planet is called “DEM3”. I don’t know what it’s called on playstation.

It’s never happened to myself, so I don’t know much more. It’s likely a multiplayer related bug?

HG advertise multiplayer and then new players try it and get stuck in such situations and rage quit... I wish they were doing this “one patch every three month” thing.

[Däguas]

Originally posted by Adarynin:

Däguas, thanks for collecting info, I assume you‘ll post it on the Zendesk?

You‘ll find many posts about it searching for Nasher/hofunakab/ bensavirgin. Also look out for threads that revolve around being stuck in the center of the 265th galaxy, or on a planet full of player bases, or that bases are missing from the teleporter list, or that the star map is empty (not always related).

On xbox, the planet is called “DEM3”. I don’t know what it’s called on playstation.

It’s never happened to myself, so I don’t know much more. It’s likely a multiplayer related bug?

HG advertise multiplayer and then new players try it and get stuck in such situations and rage quit... I wish they were doing this “one patch every three month” thing.

I'm compiling the info for better, more concise identification of the so called 'Hotel California Bug' (mostly for me to help others). As many of the players who end up having this issue tend to have problems articulating what is wrong. Also known as a massive time-sink for me to troubleshoot. When I'm done I'll likely post my findings here. As for Zendesk I'm sure they are well aware of the bug. So far I've traced it back to the (supposedly removed) 256th and 257th galaxies Odyalutai and Yilsrussimil. I'll pass on more info when it's in it's final form.

[Adarynin]

MrsNorris, tell us if you need help using a Save Editor or joining another player's game for debugging?

I like 'Hotel California Bug', it's better than "Bensavirgin Bug".

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/bez4xj/i_finally_found_the_lost_planet_of_bensavirgin/

Will we find Ben one day? Does he know he's famous and a hero among explorers of all galaxies? Or will the one who named this planet after his best friend carry the secret to his grave? Giggling, the whole way? ;-)

Thanks for helping out, Däguas (as you see I started the same info gathering effort, after seeing the repeated questions, but I got frustrated and gave up).

[DarkBalrog8000]

Many thanks guys, for helping out!

I have been playing online through this whole save, together with my brother - i guess that's important info.

More info:
Galaxy: 256 Odyalutai
System: Ritvikker

When I'm in Ritvikker, the terminus displays this: https://gyazo.com/7685717966e77d342f18bf5d1cdfb321
And I am able to see the galactic map, which displays this:
https://gyazo.com/01c4a419b8aa3892805dc977c0668f96
And I can see 8 bases in the system, owned by AVP PRO123 (my brother), even tho he only has one base, placed in our starting system - so it seems like this multiplayer thing is messy things up a bit.

If I use the terminus to travel to Nasher, things starts to get weird. A planet in Nasher is filled with player bases, can be seen here: https://gyazo.com/57fd429ecd2dc0693a7d0c48c81d67c8
And when i open up the galactic map in Nesher, I see this: https://gyazo.com/c27aebe4f60de7ca41b0ffbb74d4214a
And i can't close it again by pressing m, or access the menu - the game freezes so to speak, only option is to restart the game.

If I instead travel from Ritvikker to Hofunakab, I end up in Nasher (pretty weird). This is what i see at the terminus after teleporting to Hofunakab, which my visor identicates as Nashar: https://gyazo.com/ba6025cd36b6fa1b4069c824f4e12399
So when I'm in Nashar (also called Hofunakab) I have the option to teleport back to Ritvikker.


Is there more information that you would like?
Againg, thanks for helping :))

[DarkBalrog8000]

Just realised that i can warp to another system from Ritvikker, and maybe get out of the bug that way. I did that and now that system is just added to the terminus, but all my old systems, and my base is still gone. So the whole thing just kinda resetted my descoveries - but I'm not stuck

[Adarynin]

Glad to hear!

Aaand... yet another person posted a bensavirgin screenshot! But they complain that they see the bases as glitched out boxes.
https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/by40ee/help_request_graphical_glitch_tiny_pixelated_boxes/

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/bxwja7/has_this_happened_to_anyone_else_before_or_are/

I’m not even searching for these, ugh. This would be fun if it were on purpose, as a real part of the story (like this mission where the atlas drops you in space), sigh.

[Däguas]

Originally posted by MrsNorris:

Many thanks guys, for helping out!

I have been playing online through this whole save, together with my brother - i guess that's important info.

More info:
Galaxy: 256 Odyalutai
System: Ritvikker

When I'm in Ritvikker, the terminus displays this: https://gyazo.com/7685717966e77d342f18bf5d1cdfb321
And I am able to see the galactic map, which displays this:
https://gyazo.com/01c4a419b8aa3892805dc977c0668f96
And I can see 8 bases in the system, owned by AVP PRO123 (my brother), even tho he only has one base, placed in our starting system - so it seems like this multiplayer thing is messy things up a bit.

If I use the terminus to travel to Nasher, things starts to get weird. A planet in Nasher is filled with player bases, can be seen here: https://gyazo.com/57fd429ecd2dc0693a7d0c48c81d67c8
And when i open up the galactic map in Nesher, I see this: https://gyazo.com/c27aebe4f60de7ca41b0ffbb74d4214a
And i can't close it again by pressing m, or access the menu - the game freezes so to speak, only option is to restart the game.

If I instead travel from Ritvikker to Hofunakab, I end up in Nasher (pretty weird). This is what i see at the terminus after teleporting to Hofunakab, which my visor identicates as Nashar: https://gyazo.com/ba6025cd36b6fa1b4069c824f4e12399
So when I'm in Nashar (also called Hofunakab) I have the option to teleport back to Ritvikker.


Is there more information that you would like?
Againg, thanks for helping :))

Thank you, that's very helpful to me. Sorry for the delay I've been away.
Now I assume you would like to leave.
Are you familiar with NMSSaveEditor? I'd be more than happy to walk you through this process here. Or you can friend me and I can talk you through it.

[DarkBalrog8000]

Yeah i figured out how to use the save editor, so now I'm fine. But I realised that it might not be as big of a problem as i thought. Because I never knew whether the terminus could teleport through different galaxies or not. If it can't, then that's why my base or the other systems I had been in didn't show up. Can't find an answer to this online, but do you know if it can?

[Däguas]

Originally posted by MrsNorris:

Yeah i figured out how to use the save editor, so now I'm fine. But I realised that it might not be as big of a problem as i thought. Because I never knew whether the terminus could teleport through different galaxies or not. If it can't, then that's why my base or the other systems I had been in didn't show up. Can't find an answer to this online, but do you know if it can?

I was going to mention that last night but figured you had more pressing problems. So yes you are not supposed to be able to travel to any other galaxy via any means aside from going through the center. Or there is a mission which in effect does something similar. And while each galaxy is unique the galactic coordinates that it uses have no signifier for a given galaxy. That is to say it uses the same coordinates to point to the same space on different maps. While it could easily be implemented the developers never originally intended for people to fast travel between galaxies.

I for one hope that they might add some way to do it in the upcoming update. As there are now many players spread out in various galaxies that want to interact with each other outside of the current multiplayer function.

Was your teleport network restored when you returned to Euclid? I'm also collecting some other interesting info related to this (it came up in a what happens to your bases when you leave the galaxy question). It's one I need answered outside a multiplayer environment.

[DarkBalrog8000]

when i returned to Euclid, all my old teleports where there, but the ones (ritvikker and nashar) from the other galaxy was there too

[Däguas]

Ok great. that's one confirmation. Give me a minute and I'll look up how to edit your destinations so those will go away.