High GPU/CPU temps when running.

[Nightweaver20xx]

I've just started in NMS as of last night, and I've been noticing this game really cranks my GPU and CPU temps up very high, into the 70s and sometimes 80s C. I've read online that turning off VSync and setting the resolution to your normal desktop res helps, so I did that, but my PC is still pumping out a lot of heat from the back when I play. I've got a Corsair sealed cooler on the mainboard, but I'm wondering if maybe I need to apply more thermal paste (something I don't know how to do and honestly don't want to try myself) or maybe need a beefier cooler. Here's my setup otherwise:

OS Name Microsoft Windows 10 Home
Version 10.0.17763 Build 17763
Other OS Description Not Available
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name NIGHTWEAVER-PC
System Manufacturer System manufacturer
System Model System Product Name
System Type x64-based PC
System SKU To Be Filled By O.E.M.
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 960 @ 3.20GHz, 3200 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 8 Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/Date American Megatrends Inc. 0402, 7/30/2010
SMBIOS Version 2.5
Embedded Controller Version 255.255
BIOS Mode Legacy
BaseBoard Manufacturer ASUSTeK Computer INC.
BaseBoard Product SABERTOOTH X58
BaseBoard Version Rev 1.xx
Platform Role Desktop
Secure Boot State Unsupported
PCR7 Configuration Binding Not Possible
Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS
System Directory C:\WINDOWS\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1
Locale United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "10.0.17763.503"
User Name Nightweaver-PC\Nightweaver
Time Zone Eastern Daylight Time
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 14.0 GB
Total Physical Memory 14.0 GB
Available Physical Memory 8.84 GB
Total Virtual Memory 28.0 GB
Available Virtual Memory 21.0 GB
Page File Space 14.0 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys
Kernel DMA Protection Off
Virtualization-based security Not enabled
Device Encryption Support Reasons for failed automatic device encryption: TPM is not usable, PCR7 binding is not supported, Hardware Security Test Interface failed and device is not InstantGo, Un-allowed DMA capable bus/device(s) detected, Disabled by policy, TPM is not usable
Hyper-V - VM Monitor Mode Extensions Yes
Hyper-V - Second Level Address Translation Extensions Yes
Hyper-V - Virtualization Enabled in Firmware Yes
Hyper-V - Data Execution Protection Yes

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As you can see, I'm running enough RAM, and should have a beefy enough CPU to handle this. I'm running an nVidia GTX 980 card, a bit old, but I figure it's pretty future-proof for the most part. Thoughts?

[Gumsk]

Affirming what other people said and what I put in the Experimental thread: Clean your heatsinks and fans. Make sure the fans are spinning smoothly. Make sure there are no obstructions blocking the vents. On a laptop, raise it some so more air can get into the intakes on the bottom. If you can get to the fans easily, make sure no cables are laid across the fan assembly, blocking air. Very minor, and not a common problem, but make sure the memory chips are clean; they have to disperse heat as well. If all that doesn't work, go to the thermal paste. From what I put in the experimental thread:

Make sure you thoroughly clean the top of the processor and the bottom of the sink. I use a q-tip and rubbing alcohol. Pay the extra few dollars for good thermal paste; the extra conductivity from appropriate materials makes a big difference. Also, don't put on too much; that's a common mistake. The only purpose of the paste is to fill in tiny irregularities that leave air gaps (air is not very conductive).

Finally, or actually probably "firstly", get something like CCleaner. Uninstall anything you don't use, check your startup processes for things you don't know or use, clean the registry, and do the drive cleanup to free space.

All that said, NMS is a hog. It taxes my system more than other games that are 3 years newer with better graphics. My wife complains about the heat when she sits on the other side of the table from my laptop. With your system, you're going to have significant heat with NMS, even with all the tips everyone shares.

[MLG_xboxnoscoper420]

I have searched everywhere for help . Everyone keeps repeating the "clean your system" instead of realizing this is a NMS problem. Not a Hardware problem.
My pc is super clean.
Installed a new Liquid Cooling System few weeks ago.
I can run GTA V on 120 FPS on 2560x1440 and temp reaches 60ish C .
When Running NMS I am only using:
CPU 6%
GPU 9%
But temperature jumps to 80-85 C.
I dropped the resolution to 1920x1080 FPS down to 60, turned off Vsync, Set ALL graphics to Lowest.
Now using 2% CPU and 4% GPU but the Temperature jumps straight to 80+ anyway.
Then I go back to 2560x1440 144FPS and play games that are 5x more demanding and my pc stays a cool 60 C .

Do not tell me my system needs cleaning, because you would be ignoring that my PC runs perfect on ALL games, except NMS, the least demanding game in my library...
If my pc had a problem, it would be effecting Call of Duty Black ops 4 as well as Battlefield... Those games are WAY more demanding , yet I run quiet and smooth. But NMS is 80C without even running my pc hard. Like I said 6% CPU pand 9% GPU, yet 80 C ... makes NO sense.. (to me)

Can someone help me to be able to play with game with my super strong PC that runs any game i played on Highest Settings with temps reaching a max of 65 C. Yet NMS on lowest settings (or highest doesnt change ) the temp is 80c+ ....

[Aurumworks]

Check your FPS and try limiting it to a lower value than it's producing. Many games, No Man's Sky included try to produces as many FPS as possible taxing the hardware as much as it gives. This results in higher temperatures than you may be used to. Hence checking and limiting the FPS.

[MLG_xboxnoscoper420]

Aurumworks の投稿を引用：

Check your FPS and try limiting it to a lower value than it's producing. Many games, No Man's Sky included try to produces as many FPS as possible taxing the hardware as much as it gives. This results in higher temperatures than you may be used to. Hence checking and limiting the FPS.

If you are talking to me, I said I set it to 60fps, and confirmed it is only using 60fps, I am only using 5% CPU and GPU.

[MLG_xboxnoscoper420]

JJ Idaho の投稿を引用：

My oldass FX 8350 never breaks 58C and my 3060 usually sits around 69C. I have an aftermarket CPU cooler, can't remember the brand, it's that brown/tan one that everyone thinks is cool and retro; before that the stock cooler kept it far warmer, like 72C.

Also I do have to take it out to my workshop and blow out dust about every 2 months with my air compressor...

Exactly!
My sons computer is my old pc (6 yr old rig) that I used to play NMS on (3 years ago I put in 300 hours) and I just confirmed his pc stays around 60 C using about 85% of his GPU and 90% CPU. Runs fine for him. But I have a PC MUCH stronger than his and MUCH better cooling system. But mine is at 85 C using only 5% CPU and GPU.

Just being in the main menu, before loading the game, it jumps to 85 degrees. So I also know it is not the generation of the world, since im not even in the world yet.

[Jukelo]

Temperature is the direct result of power draw minus power dissipation.

A game cannot magically make your computer hot, at best it has an indirect control over power draw. Indirect because ultimately the drivers and firmwares for the various components in your computer have control over that, the game can only make requests which may lead to higher system usage (ie power draw).
And it doesn't matter that a game is generally not demanding (under usual circumstances): if, as Aurumworks said, there is no frame cap, then it is going to take either your CPU or GPU up to 100% usage, because no frame cap literally means 'output as many frames per second as the computer is able t o'. Even the oldest DOS game will do that if you let it. And 100% usage on either CPU or GPU is going to produce heat. Which even the stock coolers should be able to dissipate just fine, mind you, so it shouldn't be a problem.

What is highly unlikely however is that NMS would use only 2% CPU and 4% GPU, that would most likely be an error in your performance reporting software. As I said, temperature is directly related to power draw, you can't have either of those components reach 80°c without some serious power draw, which would inevitably show high usage.

NMS is more taxing on the CPU than most games, certainly more than your average AAA first person shooter, relying so much on on-the-fly procedural generation, so I suspect the difference in temperature you are seeing is down to both the GPU and CPU being taxed to a good extent at the same time, where in your other games only the GPU would reach high usage.

I would, however, give the PC a good dusting just to be sure. 80°c should still be within limits (and your system should simply shut itself down before reaching dangerously high temperatures).

[Nightweaver20xx]

Oh wow, this post I made over 2 years ago. Since then I got a much more powerful system with a newer cooler. The game still runs warm but then again so does RDR2, but that's to be expected from a game that graphically complex. I've learned that system temps when under load of around 60-70C are just fine as long as they are stable. No Man's Sky uses nearly constant calls to the CPU for arithmetic calculations since everything is procedural.

[MLG_xboxnoscoper420]

Jukelo の投稿を引用：

Temperature is the direct result of power draw minus power dissipation.

A game cannot magically make your computer hot, at best it has an indirect control over power draw. Indirect because ultimately the drivers and firmwares for the various components in your computer have control over that, the game can only make requests which lead to higher system usage (ie power draw).
And it doesn't matter that a game is generally not demanding (under usual circumstances): if, as Aurumworks said, there is no frame cap, then it is going to take either your CPU or GPU up to 100% usage, because no frame cap literally means 'output as many frames per second as the computer is able t o'. Even the oldest DOS game will do that if you let it. And 100% usage on either CPU or GPU is going to produce heat. Which even the stock coolers should be able to dissipate just fine, mind you, so it shouldn't be a problem.

What is highly unlikely however is that NMS would use only 2% CPU and 4% GPU, that would most likely be an error in your performance reporting software. NMS is more taxing on the CPU than most games, certainly more than your average AAA first person shooter, relying so much on on-the-fly procedural generation, so I suspect the difference in temperature you are seeing is down to both the GPU and CPU being taxed to a good extent at the same time, where in your other games only the GPU would reach high usage.

Right. This is why I am confused. I was wondering about a reporting error based on how little my cpu and gpu is using. I have the game forced to limit it to 60fps, and My sons computer runs it fine on highest setting barely reaches 65 degrees. he has a GTX960 in an i5. I have an i7 with a RTX 2070
I am wondering if this game has something that is causing my power to leak or something, idk. Makes no sense.
Ps. If i turn the graphics up to highest on highest resolution, my cpu and gpu go to 20% ish. So I really do not think it is a reporting error. Also every game I play reports fine, that would be awkward for only NMS to report wrong,
I am at a loss, because even if the reporting was wrong, my pc is WAY stronger than my old pc (sons pc) and his runs it fine, so why would a much weaker system run the game better than a strong system. That alone should be enough to scratch heads .

[Aurumworks]

beef soda の投稿を引用：

If you are talking to me, I said I set it to 60fps, and confirmed it is only using 60fps, I am only using 5% CPU and GPU.

Then the problem is your hardware. At this low usage it should not heat your computer up at all unless your hardware isn't disposing of what little heat is generated and it piles up. You sure you used coolant paste and not toothpaste?

[MLG_xboxnoscoper420]

Nightweaver20xx の投稿を引用：

Oh wow, this post I made over 2 years ago. Since then I got a much more powerful system with a newer cooler. The game still runs warm but then again so does RDR2, but that's to be expected from a game that graphically complex. I've learned that system temps when under load of around 60-70C are just fine as long as they are stable. No Man's Sky uses nearly constant calls to the CPU for arithmetic calculations since everything is procedural.

I play RDR2 on highest settings and i only reach 65 degrees , 65 seems to be the highest any of my games run on highest setting and FPS . But NMS has me at 85 degrees. My head is spinning. I want to play this so bad but not worth burning up my $4,000 rig.

[MLG_xboxnoscoper420]

Aurumworks の投稿を引用：

beef soda の投稿を引用：

If you are talking to me, I said I set it to 60fps, and confirmed it is only using 60fps, I am only using 5% CPU and GPU.

Then the problem is your hardware. At this low usage it should not heat your computer up at all unless your hardware isn't disposing of what little heat is generated and it piles up. You sure you used coolant paste and not toothpaste?

If it is a hardwear problem, why does RDR2 and other games wiith much more demand, run perfectly fine? I would imagine the problem would effect any game I play. Not just NMS.

[MLG_xboxnoscoper420]

Aurumworks の投稿を引用：

beef soda の投稿を引用：

You sure you used coolant paste and not toothpaste?

LOL that made me laugh, so thank you , i needed that, im not a happy camper today.. Yes I paid more for 'the good stuff"

[Orion Invictus]

beef soda の投稿を引用：

Aurumworks の投稿を引用：

Then the problem is your hardware. At this low usage it should not heat your computer up at all unless your hardware isn't disposing of what little heat is generated and it piles up. You sure you used coolant paste and not toothpaste?

IF it is a hardwear problem, why does RDR2 and other games wiith much more demand, run perfectly fine? I would imagine the problem would effect any game I play. Not just NMS.

You'd think so, but no. When one of my old motherboard's RAM slots died, it was Zoom, of all things, that caused problems.

[MLG_xboxnoscoper420]

Orion Invictus の投稿を引用：

beef soda の投稿を引用：

IF it is a hardwear problem, why does RDR2 and other games wiith much more demand, run perfectly fine? I would imagine the problem would effect any game I play. Not just NMS.

You'd think so, but no. When one of my old motherboard's RAM slots died, it was Zoom, of all things, that caused problems.

Dang. I don't even know how to go about figuring it out. PC is only 1 year old. Scared to take it to a computer person, I shutter at the idea. Thank you for your time. I guess I will just not play NMS and go back to my other games .. heartbroken now. Was looking forward to seeing the Alien settlements and all the new cool stuff. :(

[MLG_xboxnoscoper420]

JJ Idaho の投稿を引用：

also try setting the processor scheduling to 'background services' in the advanced performance tab in 'system properties/advanced settings'.

I just tried. Did not change. Temp already at 85 just on main menu, before even loading my saved game.