Since the new update, exchanging navigation datas actually became slower.

[Lael]

Because if you exchange them by 5 or 10 at a time, you'll get multiple kinds of maps, not just the one you get when exchanging only one data. So if you want one particular type of map, you'll still need to exchange your datas one by one, but this time, you'll have to skip through one more dialogue box (when the cartographer asks you how many datas you want to exchange), so it's a much more tedious work, than before the update...
No, I don't want any more distress signals, thank you, I'm in the middle of MT-hunting, I need ONLY inhabitated outposts, so STOP GIVING ME CRAP I DON'T NEED. Why can't I freaking have 10 outpost maps for 10 datas????? I'll still have what I want, but MUCH SLOWER, so it makes zero sense.

Tl;dr: cartographers should give you 10 of their initial type of maps when exchanging navigation datas in bulk.

[DrummahMike]

I can guess why. At least for me the old way didn't work properly. Say I wanted all "secure locations". I'd turn in one data until I got that map. Then I'd turn in the rest to make a stack of the same type. Once I visited up to 2 or 3 in a row, the game would start sending me back to the same secure locations, as if they're new, but when I'd get there, they'd be empty because I already went there. it was frustrating me more than wishing I could turn in more datas at once. I think the game wants to cycle map types to avoid getting repeat locations before they respawn. Just my guess.

[Lael]

Originally posted by DrummahMike:

I can guess why. At least for me the old way didn't work properly. Say I wanted all "secure locations". I'd turn in one data until I got that map. Then I'd turn in the rest to make a stack of the same type. Once I visited up to 2 or 3 in a row, the game would start sending me back to the same secure locations, as if they're new, but when I'd get there, they'd be empty because I already went there. it was frustrating me more than wishing I could turn in more datas at once. I think the game wants to cycle map types to avoid getting repeat locations before they respawn. Just my guess.

It just repeats locations on the same planet, and if you're on the same segment of that planet. If you get repeated locations, just go into space, hyperdrive to a different segment of the planet, and you'll have 2-3 new locations again. Then rinse and repeat. Or just go to an entirely different planet, and rob the depots/manufactures/whatever you're farming there.

[japp_02]

Can you please confirm (although you say it above): What you get from the cartographer now is it random as for the location type ?
Thanks.

[morgoth13]

Sometimes it seems to get stuck and keeps giving you the same spot no matter where you are in the system, even though there are obviously others. Go to a different planet(that clearly has installations of similar types) and it will just send you right back where you were. I don't know what causes it or fixes it, I assume it's just dumb luck.


My main issue is just how much nav data there is. Eventually I'll have plenty of inventory to store everything but that takes a while(and I'm not hurrying) and stacking those things up 5 at a time gets so annoying when you don't have extra space. Go to a new planet, find a marker or two, get nav data from them. Find a building or 3, get 2 or 3 nav data from each. Exchange 5 nav data for maps, come back with 12 more from the places it sent you and the spots you found along the way. And then there's all the nav data laying around on the space stations.

I guess you can use them to search for nearby buildings but I rarely feel any need to do so, and most of the time that won't get you much except more nav data than you spent to find it. You can spend them to call your ships to landing beacons but your ship usually isn't far enough away to make that necessary -- and you can just call it 50 feet away from the beacon for free.

I can't stand having to walk past all the data lying around and even not claim waypoints just because I don't want my inventory completely overrun with the stuff.

Best thing for me about being able to exchange multiples will be that it might almost be worth the time to do it and sell the charts for more money than the data now.

[GrandTickler]

sounds to me you found an exploit (?) that lets u get the specific type of coordinates u want? in that case its understandable they patch it to make it more RNG what you get.
i noticed the weird stacking thing yesterday when i exchanged 5. just used them all and only visited the areas i cared about since the nav data comes cheap and easy

[Lael]

Originally posted by japp_02:

Can you please confirm (although you say it above): What you get from the cartographer now is it random as for the location type ?
Thanks.

If you buy maps one by one, you'll still allways get the same kind of location each time, just like before. But if you buy in bulk (either in fives or tens), you'll get ALL 4 types of maps (distress, artifact, inhabitated and secure), in random numbers adding up to 5 or 10.

So, e.g., I've found a space station, where I can get an outpost map for 1 data. I'll allways get 1 outpost map for 1 data, if I exchange my datas one by one. But if I exchange 10 datas, I get 3 outpost maps, 3 artifact maps, 2 distress maps and 2 secure location maps (I don't remember the exact numbers, but you can get the idea).

[Lael]

Originally posted by GrandTickler:

sounds to me you found an exploit (?) that lets u get the specific type of coordinates u want? in that case its understandable they patch it to make it more RNG what you get.
i noticed the weird stacking thing yesterday when i exchanged 5. just used them all and only visited the areas i cared about since the nav data comes cheap and easy

I don't think it's an exploit, since this is the way it was ever since they introduced the cartographer system. On each space station you could buy only one type of map. And you still can, IF you buy them one by one. But not if you buy them in bulk.

[japp_02]

Originally posted by Thelyonna:

Originally posted by japp_02:

Can you please confirm (although you say it above): What you get from the cartographer now is it random as for the location type ?
Thanks.

If you buy maps one by one, you'll still allways get the same kind of location each time, just like before. But if you buy in bulk (either in fives or tens), you'll get ALL 4 types of maps (distress, artifact, inhabitated and secure), in random numbers adding up to 5 or 10.

So, e.g., I've found a space station, where I can get an outpost map for 1 data. I'll allways get 1 outpost map for 1 data, if I exchange my datas one by one. But if I exchange 10 datas, I get 3 outpost maps, 3 artifact maps, 2 distress maps and 2 secure location maps (I don't remember the exact numbers, but you can get the idea).

Thanks to elaborate, I appreciate, well I must get used to that :)

[GrandTickler]

Originally posted by Thelyonna:

Originally posted by japp_02:

Can you please confirm (although you say it above): What you get from the cartographer now is it random as for the location type ?
Thanks.

If you buy maps one by one, you'll still allways get the same kind of location each time, just like before. But if you buy in bulk (either in fives or tens), you'll get ALL 4 types of maps (distress, artifact, inhabitated and secure), in random numbers adding up to 5 or 10.

So, e.g., I've found a space station, where I can get an outpost map for 1 data. I'll allways get 1 outpost map for 1 data, if I exchange my datas one by one. But if I exchange 10 datas, I get 3 outpost maps, 3 artifact maps, 2 distress maps and 2 secure location maps (I don't remember the exact numbers, but you can get the idea).

lol yeah that definitely sounds like something HG would attempt to change but has no clue how to, since inventory management isnt their strongest skills

[ArmEagle]

Hmm. I should try getting maps by 5 or 10 navigation data again. ... And this time have enough free slots. I guess that part is why I didn't receive anything the last time.

[Anga Hakuna]

Are we confusing "Buy" with "Exchange"?

As I understand it...

• When a person first starts trying to get the maps, they have to "Buy" -- they have none to Exchange
  
• Those initial buys are always the same type of POI while in that star system.
  
• Once you have a collection of varied types, you can then "Exchange" multiple ones and get POI map variety in return.
  
  ??

[Mr. Bufferlow]

The new mechanic is just stupid. I quit using nav data and just look for stuff on the planet. Seems to work as well if not better. I just sell the darn things now.

[DthBlayde]

Originally posted by Anga Hakuna:

Are we confusing "Buy" with "Exchange"?

As I understand it...

• When a person first starts trying to get the maps, they have to "Buy" -- they have none to Exchange
  
• Those initial buys are always the same type of POI while in that star system.
  
• Once you have a collection of varied types, you can then "Exchange" multiple ones and get POI map variety in return.
  
  ??

Completely incorrect. Two ways of acquiring the maps, either exchanging 1 for 1 with Nav Data, or purchasing with nanites (15 each).

Navigation Data , the item, is one type only. You can have hundreds of these, and by themselves they do nothing. This is what is exchanged for a POI map.

The issue now, is buying in bulk. Say a station offers Distress Signals. Nanites or Nav Data, one for one, you'll always get Distress. When you buy bulk, it's throwing random quantites of -every- map type at you. If you're hoping to get 10 Distress Signal maps... not happening.

[Ultimates]

Anyone here experiencing the vanishing of your navigation data when you exchange them 5 by 5 with full inventory ?

[NMSPlayer]

Originally posted by Ultimates:

Anyone here experiencing the vanishing of your navigation data when you exchange them 5 by 5 with full inventory ?

Originally posted by Ultimates:

Anyone here experiencing the vanishing of your navigation data when you exchange them 5 by 5 with full inventory ?

If your inventory is full where are the maps going to go?? You have to have at least five empty slots in your inventory for this to work. It makes sense if you think about it.