Zombies spawning inside my walls

[ThunderClap]

My base is pretty big, it has 125 block long walls on each side, making it a square. My problem is that during horde nights, zombies don't just spawn on the outside of the walls, they also spawn on the inside. I'd like to know some advice on how to solve this issue.

[Uncle Al]

Sadly as far as I'm aware the solution is 'have a smaller base'.

A bedroll will block spawns in the area around it, but even if you turn the deadzone settings to maximum that's only 30 blocks. Land claim, as far as I know, only blocks sleepers respawning. Equally, usually zombies won't spawn on a player placed block, but that rule doesn't seem to apply on bloodmoon.

The spawn distance for bloodmoon seems to be about minimum 50, maximum 100 blocks away, so a base that's 100 by 100 would probably be OK if you're sitting right in the centre of it. Realistically you're going to want to move around your base. I find 40x40 seems to work to be absolutely certain I'm not going to get bloodmoon spawns inside the base no matter where in the base you are.

I think, but can't swear to it, that there's still a preference not to spawn on player created blocks if other valid spawn locations are present, even on bloodmoon. Certainly if you have a structure on stilts with regular (not player placed) ground under it, the zombies will spawn under the structure and I never see them spawning high up on the platform itself.

[Hellsmoke]

You know what we really need? The option to see the green square that you can enable with the land claim block for the bedroll. That way we can build inside it and know where we are at.

[SylenThunder]

Originally posted by costencucaius:

My base is pretty big, it has 125 block long walls on each side, making it a square. My problem is that during horde nights, zombies don't just spawn on the outside of the walls, they also spawn on the inside. I'd like to know some advice on how to solve this issue.

Bloodmoon zombies can spawn about 30 meters from your current position. If you stood in the middle of your walls, they would only spawn inside.

Originally posted by Hellsmoke77:

You know what we really need? The option to see the green square that you can enable with the land claim block for the bedroll. That way we can build inside it and know where we are at.

Why? The bedroll is only 15x15x15. It's not usually a variable like the LCB is.

I will also remind you that neither will block most spawns. LCB only blocks POI spawns, and bedroll only blocks POI and random biome spawns.

[Hellsmoke]

Originally posted by SylenThunder:

Originally posted by costencucaius:

My base is pretty big, it has 125 block long walls on each side, making it a square. My problem is that during horde nights, zombies don't just spawn on the outside of the walls, they also spawn on the inside. I'd like to know some advice on how to solve this issue.

Bloodmoon zombies can spawn about 30 meters from your current position. If you stood in the middle of your walls, they would only spawn inside.

Originally posted by Hellsmoke77:

You know what we really need? The option to see the green square that you can enable with the land claim block for the bedroll. That way we can build inside it and know where we are at.

Why? The bedroll is only 15x15x15. It's not usually a variable like the LCB is.

I will also remind you that neither will block most spawns. LCB only blocks POI spawns, and bedroll only blocks POI and random biome spawns.

Then that's just plain bad game design. Zombies shouldn't spawn in our enclosed walls. I personally haven't had them spawn in my building but that would be pretty immersion breaking if they did when I have everything locked down tightly. May as well build open air bases for all that since they can get around your walls anyways by spawning in them.

[...👑 JOST AMMAN 👑...]

@OP: if you start an MP game with only 1 player (you) you can then set also the side of LCB and Bedroll protection IIRC.

Maybe it even works in SP, never tried.

[Archie]

Originally posted by Uncle Al:

Equally, usually zombies won't spawn on a player placed block, but that rule doesn't seem to apply on bloodmoon.

I haven't experienced this. My base is also pretty large (haven't counted, but probably 80x50). I used to have instances where indeed, zombies would spawn within the walls. Particularly one blood moon where mid-way the next group decided to all spawn inside.

So I laid blocks inside the base not leaving a single spot available. Have not seen a single zombie during bloodmoon spawn inside, no matter where I am in the base (corner, middle, top, etc). I believe I saw a video of someone on YT testing that theory including bloodmoon and it showed that the zombies would simply not spawn on player-placed blocks no matter how large they were assuming there were no gaps. So far this has been the case for me and has completely eliminated any zombie at any situation from ever spawning within my walls.

[ThunderClap]

Originally posted by Archie:

Originally posted by Uncle Al:

Equally, usually zombies won't spawn on a player placed block, but that rule doesn't seem to apply on bloodmoon.

I haven't experienced this. My base is also pretty large (haven't counted, but probably 80x50). I used to have instances where indeed, zombies would spawn within the walls. Particularly one blood moon where mid-way the next group decided to all spawn inside.

So I laid blocks inside the base not leaving a single spot available. Have not seen a single zombie during bloodmoon spawn inside, no matter where I am in the base (corner, middle, top, etc). I believe I saw a video of someone on YT testing that theory including bloodmoon and it showed that the zombies would simply not spawn on player-placed blocks no matter how large they were assuming there were no gaps. So far this has been the case for me and has completely eliminated any zombie at any situation from ever spawning within my walls.

Thanks for the tip. Will definitely give it a try.

[CatPerson]

Originally posted by ⚜ JOST AMMAN ⚜:

@OP: if you start an MP game with only 1 player (you) you can then set also the side of LCB and Bedroll protection IIRC.

Maybe it even works in SP, never tried.

It works in Offline/Singleplayer just fine.
Although in single-player depending on player desires one may just be better off using the bedrolldeadzonesize command instead.

[MechaBear]

Originally posted by costencucaius:

My base is pretty big, it has 125 block long walls on each side, making it a square. My problem is that during horde nights, zombies don't just spawn on the outside of the walls, they also spawn on the inside. I'd like to know some advice on how to solve this issue.

One of the reasons i stopped playing this game. I cant believe its so difficult to adjust zombie spawning if you are in your base that is bigger.

I mean, the solution for this would be if the player is inside base, zombies should spawn 30m from the BASE and not the player. This just kills creativity where zombies can spawn inside your walls and you are forced to having a basic house for a base or forced to grind materials just so you can fill ground with player made blocks.

[Raithon]

Originally posted by TebraX:

Originally posted by costencucaius:

My base is pretty big, it has 125 block long walls on each side, making it a square. My problem is that during horde nights, zombies don't just spawn on the outside of the walls, they also spawn on the inside. I'd like to know some advice on how to solve this issue.

One of the reasons i stopped playing this game. I cant believe its so difficult to adjust zombie spawning if you are in your base that is bigger.

I mean, the solution for this would be if the player is inside base, zombies should spawn 30m from the BASE and not the player. This just kills creativity where zombies can spawn inside your walls and you are forced to having a basic house for a base or forced to grind materials just so you can fill ground with player made blocks.

Then you'll definitely need a NASA computer to run the game. Having to figure out what area is your base, project calculation on the detailed area AND load all those chunks for those of you with massive bases. Starting out with an 8-core 5GHz CPU and 32GB RAM would probably be the bare minimum.

[∀lǝx]

Yeah they need to sort this. I see no point in building a base with secure walls etc when they just spawn inside anyway. Major gameplay issue.

[Uncle Al]

Originally posted by TebraX:

Originally posted by costencucaius:

My base is pretty big, it has 125 block long walls on each side, making it a square. My problem is that during horde nights, zombies don't just spawn on the outside of the walls, they also spawn on the inside. I'd like to know some advice on how to solve this issue.

One of the reasons i stopped playing this game. I cant believe its so difficult to adjust zombie spawning if you are in your base that is bigger.

I mean, the solution for this would be if the player is inside base, zombies should spawn 30m from the BASE and not the player. This just kills creativity where zombies can spawn inside your walls and you are forced to having a basic house for a base or forced to grind materials just so you can fill ground with player made blocks.

If player placed blocks 100% prevent spawns, there's really not a lot of grinding involved to fill the ground of even a huge base. By the time you can produce enough heavy construction materials to build a 200x200 base or whatever you're going for, the additional effort to make the extra topsoil blocks isn't huge. You'll want a few workbenches but 40,000 topsoil blocks isn't a big ask if you're also making tens of thousands of concrete/iron/steel.

[{FU}TheForgeryTTV]

That's why I tend to build tower bases. Zombies never spawn above ground.

[Warlords Welt]

one Question why are so a big base?
1 play with a friend in MP and we never need so a big base........and we build a special hordetrap for bloodmoon inside this base. But we have all what we need and not one workbench we use 4-6 and 4-6 forge and so on.
But never in need so a big base....

[Crater Creator]

Originally posted by TebraX:

Originally posted by costencucaius:

My base is pretty big, it has 125 block long walls on each side, making it a square. My problem is that during horde nights, zombies don't just spawn on the outside of the walls, they also spawn on the inside. I'd like to know some advice on how to solve this issue.

One of the reasons i stopped playing this game. I cant believe its so difficult to adjust zombie spawning if you are in your base that is bigger.

I mean, the solution for this would be if the player is inside base, zombies should spawn 30m from the BASE and not the player. This just kills creativity where zombies can spawn inside your walls and you are forced to having a basic house for a base or forced to grind materials just so you can fill ground with player made blocks.

If you take a minute to think about what defines a ‘base’, in a way that’s objective and doesn’t introduce exploits, I think you’ll see this is not as simple as first imagined.

Maybe 30 blocks is too close, but I hope all can accept
A) The zombies need to spawn somewhere
B) Only the loaded chunks around the player are valid space where things can happen