I think zombies can see through concrete plate

[ShiveringSun]

Just fired up a couple forges for the first time in my newly constructed house, with walls made of concrete plate, and the first Screamer to arrive seemed to see me and did its summon. There don't seem to be any obvious gaps, and I've avoided Screamers many times by letting them just die on spikes while remaining inside my other dwellings.

Anyone else have any experience with concrete plate?

[LunaCPlays]

Put a wood block on the other side and shoot the concrete with a shotgun. If the wood is damaged than the plate is no good. I have no exp with it though.

[ShiveringSun]

Well, they do block gunfire. I'm not going to tear it all down quite yet.

[ShiveringSun]

The second screamer did not see me.

[MeDaDaddy]

They may have heard you if you were in and out of inventory, not sneaking etc

[ShiveringSun]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von MeDaDaddy:

They may have heard you if you were in and out of inventory, not sneaking etc

I thought screamers only did the "summoning scream" when they actually see you, and that has been my experience till now...

In my previous house (a small 1 room non-burnt cabin I fortified extensively), I successfully ignored many screamers, going about my business inside. I was a bit paranoid at first but realized that merely being "sensed" did not trigger their summon- they just die on spikes.

There may have been a small spot that I had line of sight to the ground, and that screamer took just the right approach at the right moment to catch a glimpse of me. The next one died on spikes without summoning.

I would like to see screamers spawn infrequently in large derelict towns. Seeing them do their thing and getting a chain reaction of screamers summoning screamers can get quite interesting! ;)

[ShiveringSun]

2 more haved seemingly seen me now...

[Ashkorne]

Screamers will call hordes even if they sense you. They don't need to see you.

Zombies will go into "Sensed" state if you make any non-crafting noise while they're within 5 so so blocks of you. That includes open boxes and chests, searching, checking your forge... ANYTHING that generates sound in the game. Even placing Wooden Frames.

About the only thing you can do while hidden (and remain hidden) is use your personal crafting menu.

[Ashkorne]

Also, having one zombie sense you is enough for it to alert other zombies around it too. That's why you'll get zombies heading over to you, even though they weren't part of the initial group that sensed you.

Any time a screamer screams it spawns a mini horde around you. Horde size is entirely dependent on your game settings.

[MeDaDaddy]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Grip Chimp:

Screamers will call hordes even if they sense you. They don't need to see you.

Zombies will go into "Sensed" state if you make any non-crafting noise while they're within 5 so so blocks of you. That includes open boxes and chests, searching, checking your forge... ANYTHING that generates sound in the game. Even placing Wooden Frames.

About the only thing you can do while hidden (and remain hidden) is use your personal crafting menu.

This & thanks Grimp :)

Also, a couple of other things to consider: certain actions make more "noise" depending upon whether your toon is crouching (sneaking.);

transferring loot items individually to inventory makes less "noise" than hitting "Loot All" button.

[MeDaDaddy]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von ShiveringSun:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von MeDaDaddy:

They may have heard you if you were in and out of inventory, not sneaking etc

I thought screamers only did the "summoning scream" when they actually see you, and that has been my experience till now...

*snip*

I would like to see screamers spawn infrequently in large derelict towns. Seeing them do their thing and getting a chain reaction of screamers summoning screamers can get quite interesting! ;)

You could always add a screamer or two to each spawn group that you are likely to find in towns/cities/wasteland (that way, they'll summon their own horde if and when they spot your toon).

This could provide some control (don't get spotted ...no extra horde.)

Increase the chance for a random horde to spawn, or the chance for individual zed types (so e.g. add

<entity name="zombieScreamer" prob="1" />

to the Entitygroup (whichever group you want)


EDIT : Similar thing was discussed here: http://steamcommunity.com/app/251570/discussions/0/358415738182285332/#c358415738182436315

EDITED EDIT: You could also add screamers to the Day7 & 14 hordes (which, lets face it, can be pretty weak) particularly after the day 49 horde has been dealt with.

[RobDeLaMorte]

*Throws Casino coins into topic*

I'm chipping in. :D Anyway one thing to mention is that I've found zombies tend to magically sense you if they're really close to you when you're in a building (On the other side of the wall within a block or two) even if you are crouched and doing literally nothing.

That's more for other people looking in the topic for tips though. :3 Make sure you guys don't hug outside walls okay?

[ShiveringSun]

I'll keep in mind everything said re how screamers detect us. It may be that my behaviour has changed at my new, much larger, base. Particularily that I've been spending less time crouching and just moving around inside more.

Thanks for the tips for adding screamers to spawns!