Since when did this game require EPIC api?

[Pop_of_Two]

Got kicked from A20 and now it is trying to connect to the epic api for verification.?

[Okiedustdevil]

@Mortvent Why in the world do you care so much how anybody else thinks about Epic or how it connects? Why do you care so much how anybody else decides who they use and don't use there own computer? It's nothing to do with you, your computer or life. This whole thing reeks of troll, a shill for Tencent or Epic or all three

[MortVent]

Originally posted by Okiedustdevil:

@Mortvent Why in the world do you care so much how anybody else thinks about Epic or how it connects? Why do you care so much how anybody else decides who they use and don't use there own computer? It's nothing to do with you, your computer or life. This whole thing reeks of troll, a shill for Tencent or Epic or all three

I despise those who rant and rave but just show their hypocrisy.

And for you to whine about it, the same questions can apply to you.

I despise mock outrage for social credit. Either stand by your outrage and do without the cookie you want, or just shut off the hot air.

[Mithrandir]

Originally posted by Amrak:

Off topic!! Open your own thread please! Has nothing to do with the original topic.

Please move the requirement for EOS to the online section of the game TFP developers!

I agree. I don't need to connect to something I won't ever use or need (EOS and cross-platform).

[bumbaclad]

Dunno why it uses EAC; it only stops people with lighting software and does nothing to prevent cheating.

[bumbaclad]

Originally posted by Amrak:

Sadly at the moment those of us who play offline at least have a hack/work around. Any who play online does not have the choice of forced connection to EOS. Even if they only play on a personal server with friends who own the STEAM game. Cross platform is not a thing as of yet but all is being forced with the EOS/Epicgames connection who plays online. It could be the future for those of us who enjoy offline as well. I will drop this game like a hot rock with a negative review to boot.

I avoid it with another game in my library called 7daystodie all one word but I don't remember how I did it. I use it to join the server I host for my friends that does not require EOS. I believe it just links to 7DaysToDie.exe instead of 7DaysToDie_EAC.exe.

[Amrak]

Originally posted by bumbaclad:

Originally posted by Amrak:

Sadly at the moment those of us who play offline at least have a hack/work around. Any who play online does not have the choice of forced connection to EOS. Even if they only play on a personal server with friends who own the STEAM game. Cross platform is not a thing as of yet but all is being forced with the EOS/Epicgames connection who plays online. It could be the future for those of us who enjoy offline as well. I will drop this game like a hot rock with a negative review to boot.

I avoid it with another game in my library called 7daystodie all one word but I don't remember how I did it. I use it to join the server I host for my friends that does not require EOS. I believe it just links to 7DaysToDie.exe instead of 7DaysToDie_EAC.exe.

That is good to know you can at least not be forced to connect to EOS for now if you play online.

[HellHoundZA]

Originally posted by SylenThunder:

Originally posted by Amrak:

EAC has worked for years with Steam. No problem! Why the push for Steam users to have Epic BS forced on them?? How many years has this game been sold on Steam??? How many loyal Steam customers do you have?? How many of us do not want anything to do with Epic?? How many of us have enjoyed just clicking the play offline button to enjoy your game???

I already answered this. Not sure why you are refusing to read it.

Originally posted by Amrak:

Just give us a way to play offline without the crap attached!!!

You already can. It's even referenced in this very thread.

You're basically sitting here throwing a complete fit over nothing. Making wild accusations and massive assumptions don't do anything to support your cause either.
Maybe knock off the tantrum, and try to look at the bigger picture. If you can't do that, I can't help you. Unplug your internet and don't turn it back on. You'll probably live longer with the fearmongering you're setting yourself up for.

You are the reason I will NEVER support this company again. You seem to be missing peoples gripe with this whole EOS BS. Some of us want absolutely nothing to do with Epic, regardless of what information it takes or doesn't take or what the reason for the decision is.

The fact that you're making people jump through several hoops just to play the game we paid for to support you through development is absolute BS of the highest order.

How did your team of developers not realise people on steam, for the most part, don't want anything to do with epic. So why not make an option to completely disable the EOS so your existing customers are happy and the people who don't have an issue with Epic can also go about their business. The more options you give people the less backlash you'll receive. Its actually quite simple and then you don't need to come on here on that high horse of yours and tell people not to play the game or get off the internet if they have a problem with the game, its extremely arrogant and disrespectful to your audience. An audience that's kept the company going for so many years. If it wasn't for us, the game would be dead so stop treating us like garbage.

[MortVent]

A couple angry people ignorant of how they sound is not a majority of the gamer base.

The minority of any playerbase is the ones that scream online. There are less than 30 people throwing a fit over this....

You don't base your decisions on catering to a minority of your customer base.

Hell the majority of complainers are actively ignoring the fact they are subject to the same things with steam to get the games they want on steam... So it's like I give it up for steam, but but epic bad.

And while the minority will try to claim the majority because they scream and throw the biggest tantrums... the numbers actively complaining is a number, and it's far less than the millions of players (and billions of steam users)

[Amrak]

7D2D forums are well known for their bullies that harass anyone who comes and questions the game!! You wonder why there are not many here asking/replying???? With the response I have gotten from those here it is no wonder.

"I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE GAME BEING ONLINE!" Now do you understand???
I have an issue with the game being able to play offline for 8+ years all of the sudden wanting me to connect one time to a Online Service "I WILL NEVER USE" and is not necessary for the game to play offline.

You have already seen people who was going to buy back out after seeing this and you will see more as well. Connecting to cross-platform is great and good progress. This is a great game and I would hate to not see it finished over this. BUT I and others will drop this game and move on with our reviews, word of mouth and loss sales. Why because of no choices. More choices brings more customers, limited choices will limit your customer base. Simple economics.

[MortVent]

Originally posted by Amrak:

7D2D forums are well known for their bullies that harass anyone who comes and questions the game!! You wonder why there are not many here asking/replying???? With the response I have gotten from those here it is no wonder.

"I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE GAME BEING ONLINE!" Now do you understand???
I have an issue with the game being able to play offline for 8+ years all of the sudden wanting me to connect one time to a Online Service "I WILL NEVER USE" and is not necessary for the game to play offline.

You have already seen people who was going to buy back out after seeing this and you will see more as well. Connecting to cross-platform is great and good progress. This is a great game and I would hate to not see it finished over this. BUT I and others will drop this game and move on with our reviews, word of mouth and loss sales. Why because of no choices. More choices brings more customers, limited choices will limit your customer base. Simple economics.

It's like whinging you play without hordes so they should remove them from the game...since it's no necessary to game to have them... But that also ignores how crossplay has to be integrated into a game by the ignorant who think it's just change one line of code... and not a major change to the code base.

All that changed was the addition of crossplay, which a majority of players and consumers wanted.... numbers are a thing and crossplay brings in more customers than isolation in an exclusive hub. It's one reason sony started to support it when they saw how badly the walled garden hurt their sales... same with other changes over time there.

It's funny how people that whine and scream about exclusivity just want the game to be exclusive to steam alone... for reasons that would make them not want to use steam in the first place lol

PS: and I don't have epic and never had a problem playing offline... without the epic game store software installed... funny how many others out there in the millions of customers don't have your problems

[Sprocket66]

The point is that is should be optional. When they added the GameSparks nonsense enough people raised a fuss about spyware that the Pimps added the option box in the game launcher in short order. Since it is such an easy fix to tick one line of platform.cfg it shouldn't be any problem for them to add the same functionality for Epic.

In today's business climate losing even just a few percent of potential sales and losing the good will of a small percent of an existing customer base when they could easily provide an opt out is foolish.

Even if most of the customer base doesn't care about letting Epic have access to your files, some customers do care. It's an easy fix that would make everyone happy so it should be a no brainer to let people opt out without having to manually edit the game files every time there is a patch or update. Especially since there is currently no other platform to interact with.

[pApA^LeGBa]

Originally posted by MortVent:

A couple angry people ignorant of how they sound is not a majority of the gamer base.

The minority of any playerbase is the ones that scream online. There are less than 30 people throwing a fit over this....

You don't base your decisions on catering to a minority of your customer base.

Hell the majority of complainers are actively ignoring the fact they are subject to the same things with steam to get the games they want on steam... So it's like I give it up for steam, but but epic bad.

And while the minority will try to claim the majority because they scream and throw the biggest tantrums... the numbers actively complaining is a number, and it's far less than the millions of players (and billions of steam users)

It´s absolutly unecessary to make it connect for everyone everytime. You can´t expect people to just accept something that unneccesary.

Especially if we talk about a chinese company these days. Yes EPIC is originally from the US and also located there but it´s owned by a chinese company. A lot of people are simply upset because of that and also will never use EPIC store for the same reason. Ironically the same people often use discord. Wich is also chinese...

[MortVent]

Originally posted by Sprocket66:

The point is that is should be optional. When they added the GameSparks nonsense enough people raised a fuss about spyware that the Pimps added the option box in the game launcher in short order. Since it is such an easy fix to tick one line of platform.cfg it shouldn't be any problem for them to add the same functionality for Epic.

In today's business climate losing even just a few percent of potential sales and losing the good will of a small percent of an existing customer base when they could easily provide an opt out is foolish.

Even if most of the customer base doesn't care about letting Epic have access to your files, some customers do care. It's an easy fix that would make everyone happy so it should be a no brainer to let people opt out without having to manually edit the game files every time there is a patch or update. Especially since there is currently no other platform to interact with.

there are several platforms, Steam is just one of them. Epic is technically another.

And it's not just a simple checkbox solution. If you knew anything about how crossplay code has to be built in... especially as hard as it is to add it after the fact (many games when sony finally allowed it were not able to go back in and re-add it... due to the code changes needed)

[MortVent]

Originally posted by pApA^LeGBa:

Originally posted by MortVent:

A couple angry people ignorant of how they sound is not a majority of the gamer base.

The minority of any playerbase is the ones that scream online. There are less than 30 people throwing a fit over this....

You don't base your decisions on catering to a minority of your customer base.

Hell the majority of complainers are actively ignoring the fact they are subject to the same things with steam to get the games they want on steam... So it's like I give it up for steam, but but epic bad.

And while the minority will try to claim the majority because they scream and throw the biggest tantrums... the numbers actively complaining is a number, and it's far less than the millions of players (and billions of steam users)

It´s absolutly unecessary to make it connect for everyone everytime. You can´t expect people to just accept something that unneccesary.

Especially if we talk about a chinese company these days. Yes EPIC is originally from the US and also located there but it´s owned by a chinese company. A lot of people are simply upset because of that and also will never use EPIC store for the same reason. Ironically the same people often use discord. Wich is also chinese...

And steam has Chinese links too (were necessary to operate there)... as does Microsoft... google, etc.. There is nothing online now that is not linked in part to china. So the only way to avoid it, is to get off the net.

And the irony of throwing a fit over that.. on a computer/phone/etc made in China by companies partnered with them..

But the hilarious thing is thinking they care about random people's information, beyond marketing data that steam collects. Hell your anti-virus programs collect more information as does your firewalls.

[Amrak]

Oh and I forgot to mention along with harassment they also try to derail discussions and get them closed! Amazing the insults they throw when it has nothing to do with the issue.

There is no reason to connect to a online service to play offline!!! NONE!!!
The platform is for EOS cross-platform online gaming! Has nothing to do with OFFLINE gaming!!! Not to hard to understand at all. And the hack/work around proves this.

PS NO I do not use any social media such as discord, Facebook ect.. why I hate control freaks like the one who is trying to get this thread derailed and closed.