A19 storage chest and boxes smaller??

[BurningWiki]

why in gods name are the chests and storage boxes smaller??
storage was ALWAYS a problem in this game, now you made it worse??

now i need to make my base bigger so all the nonsense chests and boxes fit in it??
what in gods name is the point of this????

when you play 7 days to die, PVE it already is a sorting game!!, you spend 90% of your item sorting out junk!!!, it would be nice if that junk is all located in 10 boxes, instead of 20 boxes!!!!

i see no reason why to make the chests smaller other than frustrating players!!!. no one asked for smaller boxes, no one wants smaller boxes, so why even change it??

wich brings me to the next GRIPE i have against A19, and so u know iam talking from experience and iam not a noob, i have 2400 hours in this game and have owned it almost from day 1..

WHY THE HELL CAN ZOMBIES NOW WALK AGAINST A SLOPED WALL?????
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first we were +- safe underground from zombies and 7th day.
than you changed zombies into super diggers, better than any mole,
so we were not safe anymore,
than we figured out sloping walls would protect us from the basic zombies, and now, it wont.. so what is the point???
you want us to do what in this game?? make straight walls again and just let them base it, because that is exactly what happening, or making the old deadfall pit again, just digg 50 blocks down, make a giant fall pit????

and my base is now twice the size it was before because now i have TWICE AS MANY BOXES/CHESTS, all i do is repair stuff..

this game in sort has become a sorting, repair, game.... that is all i end up doing!!. making more and more chests, sorting my things, and when i hear a zombie i go outside and kill it, hoping it is not a horde, if it is i WILL LOGOUT, because, they keep coming and they will destroy my walls..

instead of a nice base with sloping walls, that zombies slide off into a spike, now i have machine gun turrents that want ammo all the time making noise, a electrical fence that wont stop a rabbit, and a base 2 times the size because of chests being a lot smaller!!!...
and iam constantly repairing my base...


WHAT IS THE POINT??? @Joel Huenink
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7 days to die, lost its way...

[amyasleigh]

The devs have a certain vision of the game that isn't shared by you.
The current meta is to exploit the AI so it paths into a jungle gym type area where you can kill them easier, because that is fun and engaging gameplay.
I'll suggest just not playing for some time. Its still in alpha and though many of these things are unlikely to change in a positive way, its better than frustration. And, hopefully there will be meaty content to dig in to to make up for questionable decisions once you come back to it.
I'll be taking a break again as well since the constant need to mod and edit the xmls to fix things I don't like is starting to overtake the time spent actually playing (and giving me flashbacks to when I was playing cataclysm religiously). It was fun seeing new stuff at least.

[Likabul]

Items.xml


You can adjust stack sizes to whatever you want.

[Salt Strider]

You keep asking the right question though. "What is really the point?" I think it's just to piss you off and only you.

[Teresa]

No need to make your base bigger.

With wood and nails in your inventory, craft wooden furniture and storage block. Put it on your belt. Hold r. The first choice is a large storage chest. The second choice makes it writeable, so that you can label them all.

[Crater Creator]

90% of your [time I think you meant] sorting out junk? Nonsense. I spend much less time sorting in A19, because we have smarter pick up and drop off functionality for containers now.

Over the alphas the vehicle storage has gotten bigger, the backpack's gotten bigger, and the toolbelt's gotten bigger. But they change one thing the other way, and here you are. So fine, let's talk about the storage chests.

Storage chests are physically smaller than storage boxes. Storage chests can be made on day 1 out of nothing but wood, while storage boxes are a more advanced recipe, requiring nails.
Despite this, the storage chest held as much as the storage box. It made no sense. The storage box looked larger and was harder to craft, but provided no more space. It was a let down to spend the resources to 'upgrade' to storage boxes that weren't any better than what you had. But now, the container size reflects visual expectations and the progression curve.

Regarding sloped walls and whatever the next weird-shape-of-the-month is, yeah, the player shouldn't be infinitely safe for a finite amount of effort. You ask what the point is? Well let me turn that around. What is the point of playing with zombies turned on, if you don't want them to play their role as the antagonists?

Because it's a sandbox game, it won't do for the zombies to merely navigate most of the possible geometries. They have to be able to handle whatever weird shape a player's base takes.

There are a zillion answers for what you're supposed to do about the Blood Moon horde. This is what drives player creativity. Necessity is the mother of invention and all that. Just look around the forum. If you're really coming up blank, steal some ideas from here.

https://community.7daystodie.com/topic/21362-advice-for-higher-level-blood-moons-basedefense-alpha-19-b180/

[xerxius]

wtf? Is he mad because exploits don't work anymore??

[Seftak]

Originally posted by xerxius:

wtf? Is he mad because exploits don't work anymore??

Readig it i'd also ade that he complains about his lack of ingenuity and creativity. He used technics he was told to use and probably never tried designing a base on his own.

Also LOL at the "my base is 2 times larger because of storage!". You know there is this thing called the Y axis? You are allowed to build up or down...

[Shurenai]

Chests had their inventory reduced because they are tiny and craftable with a bit of scrap wood at any time; It was fairly imbalanced. The storage crates however have the same amount of inventory as it used to.

The change was done to bring a bit of balance to the issue and to add a sense of progression as you go from 'tiny chest you made at the start' to 'proper large wooden storage crate nailed together'

So, Your complaint that you need twice as many is inaccurate. You only need twice as many if you insist upon using chests which are meant to be for early game primarily, and for smaller amounts of items in mid to late game. Mass storage should be done in the big crates.


As to the complaint about slopes....Yes, You're supposed to actually engage the zombies, use your traps, use some ingenuity, Not just completely ignore them with a base design that makes them completely ineffectual. If you don't like it, You can always turn the blood moon off in the settings, Or turn zombies off entirely. But, the player should never be 100% safe at all times in a survival game. (Plus, it was an exploit.)

[samcharles77]

Originally posted by Teresa:

No need to make your base bigger.

With wood and nails in your inventory, craft wooden furniture and storage block. Put it on your belt. Hold r. The first choice is a large storage chest. The second choice makes it writeable, so that you can label them all.

Ah, thank you for this! I've been using signs to label my boxes. I wasn't sure how to make them writeable.

[Hunter451]

WOW just complain about nothing, storage boxes are fine. Adapt to your game it will be better on your health. LOL

[[-=O=-]^FightinCock]

20 boxes.... ? I think your doing it wrong.
I start with a few chests and as I find nails add the writable storage boxes.
Sorting is easy with the new sorting buttons and at home base I have only these boxes...
1 Guns and ammo
2 Metal
3 Foods
4 Drinks
5 Meds
6 Crafting
7 Construction Gas and Bullet making
8 Items to Mod
9 Mods Guns
10 Mods Armor
11 Mods Pointy Sticks
12 For sale

Other than a few dump boxs and a couple at my horde base, for construction / repairs and extra ammo. That's about it.

I'm currently living above a 2 car garage... and everything fits in quite snugly. ;)

[👀nɐMelɐK]

I incorporate writable storage boxes in the floors/walls of my crafting room, often, storage takes 0 room.

[FightinWelsh]

LOL I normally have 20-25 storage crates to calm my OCD and I did my entire base with 5 of every work station inside a buzz's bar with room to spare.. and i made another base for horde nights. easy peasy.