Have military bases/posts been removed?!?

[DΔMNATION]

i have explored over 1/8th of a random gen map, no military bases or posts AT all. Random gen fault??????

[↯Zindy⛦]

I find army camps and things like that outside of cities and towns. try following the gravel roads.

[SylenThunder]

Wait, you only explored a fraction of the map, and made a baseless assumption based on that? There are at least three different types that I can think of off the top of my head, but the actual number is probably closer to five or six at a minimum.

[RasaNova]

Yeah you may need to explore a bit more than an eighth of the map to find a specific POI you're looking for. They aren't guaranteed to be an a RGW map, but army bases are not uncommon. But even if you have none, it's not a fault with random gen, it's just random.

If you really need to know where they are on your map and don't mind something that can easily be considered cheating, you can find your prefabs.xml file and look for it, or you can use debug mode (F1 dm) then hit escape and select the poi locator. You'd have to know the poi name to search for, which you can get from the wiki.

[NoMan]

Originally posted by DΔMNATION Flux:

...no military bases ...??????

Originally posted by SylenThunder:

...a baseless assumption based on that?....

So finding a base will prove the assumption baseless, while ultimately not finding a base will confirm that the assumption previously considered baseless was not baseless at all but based on a lack of bases.

Fortunately for me, my Red Mesa compound has a Red Mesa compound next door, all right in the middle of downtown.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2340397696

There is a school nearby and a playground right between the minefields, you know, for the kids.

[Crater Creator]

Originally posted by SylenThunder:

Wait, you only explored a fraction of the map, and made a baseless assumption based on that? There are at least three different types that I can think of off the top of my head, but the actual number is probably closer to five or six at a minimum.

A baseless assumption, you say?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hou0lU8WMgo

[DΔMNATION]

Originally posted by Jolly:

Originally posted by DΔMNATION Flux:

i have explored over 1/8th of a random gen map, no military bases or posts AT all. Random gen fault??????

The entitlement generation never fails to deliver the unintended comedy.

Usually Military bases are very common, I've explored 1/5 of the map to no success....

[Lady MacBeth]

Originally posted by DΔMNATION Flux:

Originally posted by Jolly:

The entitlement generation never fails to deliver the unintended comedy.

Usually Military bases are very common, I've explored 1/5 of the map to no success....

No, I don't think they they fall under very common in a19 rwg. You find them occassionally, but its not like in 17 where they were all over the place. I remember finding a cluster of 3 of them almost right on top of each other in a17.

[hpsfamily]

you can explore (preferred) or check files to see if it was spawned. i have made worlds that only had 2 tier 5 poi in it and had to add 2 hospitals manually. feel free to mess around with creative mode and add in extra poi areas. its a little something to get use to using but definitely doable

[RasaNova]

Originally posted by hpsfamily:

you can explore (preferred) or check files to see if it was spawned. i have made worlds that only had 2 tier 5 poi in it and had to add 2 hospitals manually. feel free to mess around with creative mode and add in extra poi areas. its a little something to get use to using but definitely doable

heh yeah some worlds are just duds. My current rwg is the worst I've played... Unconnected towns, terrible jagged/mountainous terrain, missing some key POIs... But, I won't restart, I figure that's life in the apocalypse - the whole key is to adapt and survive with whatever the game throws at me!

[One Dandy Cube]

Originally posted by RasaNova:

Yeah you may need to explore a bit more than an eighth of the map to find a specific POI you're looking for. They aren't guaranteed to be an a RGW map, but army bases are not uncommon. But even if you have none, it's not a fault with random gen, it's just random.

If you really need to know where they are on your map and don't mind something that can easily be considered cheating, you can find your prefabs.xml file and look for it, or you can use debug mode (F1 dm) then hit escape and select the poi locator. You'd have to know the poi name to search for, which you can get from the wiki.

^ You can type in names like red_mesa or ranger_station or army and you will see where they are on the map.

[Agarillobob]

Originally posted by NoMan:

Originally posted by DΔMNATION Flux:

...no military bases ...??????

Originally posted by SylenThunder:

...a baseless assumption based on that?....

So finding a base will prove the assumption baseless, while ultimately not finding a base will confirm that the assumption previously considered baseless was not baseless at all but based on a lack of bases.

Fortunately for me, my Red Mesa compound has a Red Mesa compound next door, all right in the middle of downtown.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2340397696

There is a school nearby and a playground right between the minefields, you know, for the kids.

no, even not finding a single military outpost doesnt confirm they are removed or the gen is faulty
even not having one in 100 maps doesnt confirm that it can always be very bad luck *cough* Dream *cough*

[TheJebblue]

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[turrón master]

no, they are certainly still a thing. why would they remove them?

[vgifford]

Originally posted by torrented gamer:

no, they are certainly still a thing. why would they remove them?

He hasn't found any in his RNG world. Therefore, they must have removed them.

The following are in the RWGmixer.xml:

<prefab name="army_barracks_01"/>
<prefab name="army_camp_01"/>
<prefab name="army_camp_02"/>
<prefab name="army_camp_03"/>
<prefab name="installation_red_mesa"/>

And they are only the ones I recognize by eye.