hunger and thirst go down way too fast within seconds after eating and drinking

[MikoSphinx]

started to play 3 days ago with my friend and seems like the hunger and thirst have changed so much since i last played back in May. Not sure why it goes down to 0 for both when i ate alot and drank alot too. Same goes with my friend, we get so frustrated being always hungry and thirsty even when we aren't doin much physical stuff or no status effects goin on that are negative. Please help answer as to why this is a thing for Alpha 19?

[CrazyOdd]

Check your character screen. You might be confusing the buffs/refill with the bars.

[I can't spell]

dont put points into healing factor. that causes more hunger if you can believe that.

[DthBlayde]

If you're referring to the counter on the left side of the screen that counts down when you eat or drink, thats just showing how many seconds of regen the item is granting. Your actual hunger and thirst bars are the blue and green below the hotkeys. You'll see those ticking -up- as the meter on the side counts down. Once it stops, the regen buff is over.

[Emperor Cheesius Secundus]

What the last guy said. The bars below your toolbar are the actual hunger/thirst bars. Green is hunger, blue is thirst. The number is just counting down until the food item is done replenishing you hunger/thirst.

[MikoSphinx]

thanks so much! it was so confusin but still relearnin things of the game and new things that was added

[WWDragon]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย I can't spell:

dont put points into healing factor. that causes more hunger if you can believe that.

that sucks; I took two levels of it.

None of the things said change the fact that food is required every minute or two.

[Emperor Cheesius Secundus]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย MikoSphinx:

thanks so much! it was so confusin but still relearnin things of the game and new things that was added

Yeah you aren't alone. Took me a bit to figure that out as well.

[Emperor Cheesius Secundus]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย WWDragon:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย I can't spell:

dont put points into healing factor. that causes more hunger if you can believe that.

that sucks.

None of the things said change the fact that food is required every minute or two.

Because you don't need food every minute or two... I'd recommend reading the other responses. The healing factor thing I think is just saying that you use up more energy to heal faster, thus burning more calories. That being said, if that's what's going on he (the developer) should probably add a bit to the description of the perk saying that.

[WWDragon]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Emperor Cheesius Secundus:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย WWDragon:

that sucks.

None of the things said change the fact that food is required every minute or two.

Because you don't need food every minute or two... I'd recommend reading the other responses. The healing factor thing I think is just saying that you use up more energy to heal faster, thus burning more calories. That being said, if that's what's going on he (the developer) should probably add a bit to the description of the perk saying that.

Better to remove the food use entirely, given it's an innate perk that's a pain to level.
And if the game tells me I need food every minute, that's all that matters; it's annoying and takes a lot of fun out of the game.

I'm also always holding down shift, which probably contributes to it.
This is another thing that's ♥♥♥♥, because the base move speed is HORRIBLY slow.

Between the food and lack of move speed, I'm seriously tempted to quit playing.

[Emperor Cheesius Secundus]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย WWDragon:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Emperor Cheesius Secundus:

Because you don't need food every minute or two... I'd recommend reading the other responses. The healing factor thing I think is just saying that you use up more energy to heal faster, thus burning more calories. That being said, if that's what's going on he (the developer) should probably add a bit to the description of the perk saying that.

Better to remove the food use entirely, given it's an innate perk that's a pain to level.
And if the game tells me I need food every minute, that's all that matters; it's annoying and takes a lot of fun out of the game.

I'm also always holding down shift, which probably contributes to it.
This is another thing that's ♥♥♥♥, because the base move speed is HORRIBLY slow.

Between the food and lack of move speed, I'm seriously tempted to quit playing.

If you spend all your time pressing shift, then yes, you will get hungry very fast. I don't know what you mean by innate perk because you have to spend points into it, the base healing barely counts. As for the slow movement, yeah it's not great. But if you loot even a decent house you can find good ♥♥♥♥. I'm in a town with maybe 5 businesses and already have a gun,ammo galore, a forge, and enough components to make a motorcycle on day 4. The low movement speed is to give you reason to build vehicles like the bike, the moped, and the cars. Believe me, even a basic bike can take you much farther than you think. And all it takes is 2 points into intel (1 for the attribute and 1 in motor monkey or whatever it's called) and the components, many of which can be found just by whacking a car with a wrench.

[Ihateeverybody]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย I can't spell:

dont put points into healing factor. that causes more hunger if you can believe that.

Ever read the Book Crewl Lye by Piers Anthony. There is a Character called Jordon the Barbarian who has a magic self healing Talent. He had the exact same criteria, his healing needed something to heal with. the more healing required would take of his body (emaciate him).

Don't think Wolverines Mutant healing worked that way (or didn't specify when I was into comics (late 80s, early 90s). Never seen the movies so don't know how they handled it there.

I guess the question is, how would you balance the heal ability? Nothings free. NOTHING! Least we know what it costs up front.

[Emperor Cheesius Secundus]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Ihateeverybody:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย I can't spell:

dont put points into healing factor. that causes more hunger if you can believe that.

Ever read the Book Crewl Lye by Piers Anthony. There is a Character called Jordon the Barbarian who has a magic self healing Talent. He had the exact same criteria, his healing needed something to heal with. the more healing required would take of his body (emaciate him).

Don't think Wolverines Mutant healing worked that way (or didn't specify when I was into comics (late 80s, early 90s). Never seen the movies so don't know how they handled it there.

I guess the question is, how would you balance the heal ability? Nothings free. NOTHING! Least we know what it costs up front.

Dude, I have ADD and even I don't know what the hell your train of thought looks like. Probably spaghetti. Please explain what you're saying.

[rincewind]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Ihateeverybody:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย I can't spell:

dont put points into healing factor. that causes more hunger if you can believe that.

Ever read the Book Crewl Lye by Piers Anthony. There is a Character called Jordon the Barbarian who has a magic self healing Talent. He had the exact same criteria, his healing needed something to heal with. the more healing required would take of his body (emaciate him).

Don't think Wolverines Mutant healing worked that way (or didn't specify when I was into comics (late 80s, early 90s). Never seen the movies so don't know how they handled it there.

I guess the question is, how would you balance the heal ability? Nothings free. NOTHING! Least we know what it costs up front.

Of course it's not free. You need to spend points.

[WWDragon]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Emperor Cheesius Secundus:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Ihateeverybody:

Ever read the Book Crewl Lye by Piers Anthony. There is a Character called Jordon the Barbarian who has a magic self healing Talent. He had the exact same criteria, his healing needed something to heal with. the more healing required would take of his body (emaciate him).

Don't think Wolverines Mutant healing worked that way (or didn't specify when I was into comics (late 80s, early 90s). Never seen the movies so don't know how they handled it there.

I guess the question is, how would you balance the heal ability? Nothings free. NOTHING! Least we know what it costs up front.

Dude, I have ADD and even I don't know what the hell your train of thought looks like. Probably spaghetti. Please explain what you're saying.

pretty sure he was responding to my comment.

And if that's the case... no it wasn't free. it was a huge pain in the ass to survive long enough for me to get that... so the healing itself SHOULD be free!
There is NO basic regeneration in the game and there is no sleeping.
that means the ONLY way to heal minor damage is to take these perks; that makes them manditory.

Also in relation to the hunger and drink system.
If it was only complaining about it and reducing my stats at 25% for tier 1 and 10% for tier 2, I'd find it vastly less annoying.

Side note in support of this: There also needs to be some sort of hard cap on the amount of hunger and thirst loss, so that they don't go down more then say 5 per minute or something along those lines..... no matter what you are doing.
This would help with the whole food and drink every minute thing, too.

[Shurenai]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย WWDragon:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Emperor Cheesius Secundus:

Dude, I have ADD and even I don't know what the hell your train of thought looks like. Probably spaghetti. Please explain what you're saying.

pretty sure he was responding to my comment.

And if that's the case... no it wasn't free. it was a huge pain in the ass to survive long enough for me to get that... so the healing itself SHOULD be free!
There is NO basic regeneration in the game and there is no sleeping.
that means the ONLY way to heal minor damage is to take these perks; that makes them manditory.

Also in relation to the hunger and drink system.
If it was only complaining about it and reducing my stats at 25% for tier 1 and 10% for tier 2, I'd find it vastly less annoying.

Incorrect. There is basic regen. It's 1hp per 5~ minutes, Or 1 hp per 3~ minutes; not sure which.

But you absolutely do recover health over time without Healing Factor....And even if you didn't, You're acting like it's so expensive, but, the first level is available immediately and purchasable with 1 perk point. You get 4 for free from doing the tutorial quests up to placing the campfire (Dont need to visit the trader to get the points)


Also, Medical Bandages heal damage, you start with two...Painkillers heal damage, you find them everywhere, Food heals small amounts of damage as well.