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Zakmackraken Jun 15, 2023 @ 3:26am
SteamVR now supports the Mac again - but which headsets?
So a week or so before the Apple Vision Pro Steam VR for Mac game back to life. Apple have a support doc about it

https://support.apple.com/en-ie/HT207943

I've installed it but can't get it to recognise my tethered Quest 2. The errors are Vive heavy but I can't really see a way to set the device.

There is literally no information on the net beyond the link above. I would have expected a bit more noise. So, Steam, how can I use this?
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grzegorz77 Jun 15, 2023 @ 6:30am 
Originally posted by Zakmackraken:
So a week or so before the Apple Vision Pro Steam VR for Mac game back to life. Apple have a support doc about it

https://support.apple.com/en-ie/HT207943

I've installed it but can't get it to recognise my tethered Quest 2. The errors are Vive heavy but I can't really see a way to set the device.

There is literally no information on the net beyond the link above. I would have expected a bit more noise. So, Steam, how can I use this?

Oculus promised support for Linux, and the first development kits had this support.
Later, facbook bought oculus and blocked the driver for linux.
Facbook Oculus Rift, Facbook Oculus Rift S, Facbook Oculus quest 2 they don't have a driver for linux.

Maybe you can use quest 2 as a video sharing from your computer to your phone - I do not have quest 2 so I did not research the topic.
Try reading about the possibility of using quest 2 on Linux.

Well, yes, but why am I writing about Linux?
Mac os is a bit modified Linux.

As for the new vr goggles from apple I would not go this way, it will be something far from what is today's vr pc. I would rather expect compatibility close to zero.

edit:
From your link appears that it works as I thought.
Is your computer based on the Intel platform?
Have you chosen beta versions for mac?

edit 2:
As for the question from the topic title.
On Linux runs sets based on vive, i.e. index and vive (I do not know if vive based on wmr work) Maybe it is also possible to force quest 2 to work due to the fact that it is more of a cardboard phone than a pc vr.
Last edited by grzegorz77; Jun 15, 2023 @ 6:43am
Ray Jun 17, 2023 @ 3:32am 
Originally posted by Zakmackraken:
Apple have a support doc about it

https://support.apple.com/en-ie/HT207943
Not sure if you know, but that doc is from 2017:
https://web.archive.org/web/20200604063025/https://support.apple.com/en-ie/HT207943
juroz Jun 26, 2023 @ 10:09am 
If i could play every game from steam inclusive vr games on a mac and the vision pro i would buy a mac and the vision pro. That really would be awesome. I do hope they also have support for fanatec wheels
grzegorz77 Jun 26, 2023 @ 10:38am 
Originally posted by juroz:
If i could play every game from steam inclusive vr games on a mac and the vision pro i would buy a mac and the vision pro. That really would be awesome. I do hope they also have support for fanatec wheels

Vision pro apple - It's a very high quality cardboard. They have little to do with vr - because they don't have controllers.
And real vr is controllers, thanks to them you move inside the vr world. It is the controllers and their precision that are the most important.

In short, it's just a screen attached to your head.
You can buy a phone case for $ 10 and use the gamepad to control, you'll get basically the same thing.
By buying a case with good lenses if you have a high-quality phone. You'll get an effect very similar to the new Apple goggles.

All these advertised new features are like console ads: "from now we mount super-fast ssd drives" when in home computers these groundbreaking drives have been inside for many years.

So with a good heart, I advise you to read about vr headsets before you throw so much money.

Not to mention the lack of compatibility, youtube will work there and not much else (no controllers - You control everything in VR with your hands, you don't have controllers, you don't have hands).
whigmalwhim Jan 1, 2024 @ 5:55pm 
Originally posted by grzegorz77:
Originally posted by Zakmackraken:
So a week or so before the Apple Vision Pro Steam VR for Mac game back to life. Apple have a support doc about it

https://support.apple.com/en-ie/HT207943

I've installed it but can't get it to recognise my tethered Quest 2. The errors are Vive heavy but I can't really see a way to set the device.

There is literally no information on the net beyond the link above. I would have expected a bit more noise. So, Steam, how can I use this?

Oculus promised support for Linux, and the first development kits had this support.
Later, facbook bought oculus and blocked the driver for linux.
Facbook Oculus Rift, Facbook Oculus Rift S, Facbook Oculus quest 2 they don't have a driver for linux.

Maybe you can use quest 2 as a video sharing from your computer to your phone - I do not have quest 2 so I did not research the topic.
Try reading about the possibility of using quest 2 on Linux.

Well, yes, but why am I writing about Linux?
Mac os is a bit modified Linux.

As for the new vr goggles from apple I would not go this way, it will be something far from what is today's vr pc. I would rather expect compatibility close to zero.

edit:
From your link appears that it works as I thought.
Is your computer based on the Intel platform?
Have you chosen beta versions for mac?

edit 2:
As for the question from the topic title.
On Linux runs sets based on vive, i.e. index and vive (I do not know if vive based on wmr work) Maybe it is also possible to force quest 2 to work due to the fact that it is more of a cardboard phone than a pc vr.

MacOS is not a "modified Linux." It is based on FreeBSD, which is not Linux (MacOS kernel source code)[github.com]. BSD and Linux are two separate entities.
grzegorz77 Jan 2, 2024 @ 2:12am 
Originally posted by whigmalwhim:
Originally posted by grzegorz77:
....

MacOS is not a "modified Linux." It is based on FreeBSD, which is not Linux (MacOS kernel source code)[github.com]. BSD and Linux are two separate entities.

Most people won't understand what you've written.
That is why I have made a simplification that is already difficult for most to accept and understand.
roman.zm98 Jan 5, 2024 @ 4:36am 
Originally posted by grzegorz77:
Originally posted by whigmalwhim:

MacOS is not a "modified Linux." It is based on FreeBSD, which is not Linux (MacOS kernel source code)[github.com]. BSD and Linux are two separate entities.

Most people won't understand what you've written.
That is why I have made a simplification that is already difficult for most to accept and understand.

It's not a simplification; it's disinformation. They have almost nothing in common.
grzegorz77 Jan 5, 2024 @ 4:57am 
Originally posted by roman.zm98:
Originally posted by grzegorz77:
....

It's not a simplification; it's disinformation. They have almost nothing in common.

Like humans and monkeys.
monoton Jan 20, 2024 @ 11:42pm 
Originally posted by grzegorz77:
Originally posted by roman.zm98:

It's not a simplification; it's disinformation. They have almost nothing in common.

Like humans and monkeys.
What does that even mean?
It’s disinformation.
whigmalwhim Jan 24, 2024 @ 9:35am 
Originally posted by grzegorz77:
Originally posted by whigmalwhim:

MacOS is not a "modified Linux." It is based on FreeBSD, which is not Linux (MacOS kernel source code)[github.com]. BSD and Linux are two separate entities.

Most people won't understand what you've written.
That is why I have made a simplification that is already difficult for most to accept and understand.

There is a difference between simplification and misinformation. Simplification takes what is factual and makes it easy to digest.
Disinformation, on the other hand, is promoting information that is wrong. You were promoting information that is wrong, while masquerading it as fact.

Considering you lack knowledge on basic differences between operating systems, I would call into question your previous statements about headsets. I recommended nobody should take what you are saying about VR seriously.
grzegorz77 Jan 24, 2024 @ 1:59pm 
Originally posted by whigmalwhim:
Originally posted by grzegorz77:

Most people won't understand what you've written.
That is why I have made a simplification that is already difficult for most to accept and understand.

There is a difference between simplification and misinformation. Simplification takes what is factual and makes it easy to digest.
Disinformation, on the other hand, is promoting information that is wrong. You were promoting information that is wrong, while masquerading it as fact.

Considering you lack knowledge on basic differences between operating systems, I would call into question your previous statements about headsets. I recommended nobody should take what you are saying about VR seriously.

Instead of producing this incredibly wise statement, definitely proving that you are the only one in the world who is right.

You could have taken this time to explain to the gentleman monotone of: "Like humans and monkeys."
If your knowledge of operating systems is so extensive, You wouldn't have any problem with that.
Flashgod_VR Jan 25, 2024 @ 12:08am 
In the first sentence: "Intel-based Mac"...
grzegorz77 Jan 25, 2024 @ 1:41am 
Originally posted by Flashgod_VR:
In the first sentence: "Intel-based Mac"...

You're right, this is actually in the first sentence of the link.
However, probably most Mac users don't realize that today they are using ARM processors.

Since Mac users already have their VR headset at the price they are used to, I suggest ending the discussion, cause it doesn't seem to me that it will lead to anything.


Personally, I sincerely wish them all the best.


And I'm glad that many of them today are wholeheartedly in favor of Vr, although half a year ago they claimed that Vr is immature and we have to wait another 10 years.

It's a pity that there is no what is most important, i.e. vr controllers, but it was the same with the first commercial VR headsets, i.e. Oculus Rift (1) (cv1), to which vr controllers were introduced a year after the premiere, as sold separately.


I also admit that the Mac Vr set brings something new, a battery on a cable, it can be a good solution, and no one has dared to do it so far.
Personally, I use PC VR so the battery is something I don't care about at all, but it's nice that they tried it.

The Mac Vr doesn't have vr controllers but it does have hand tracking like quest 1, 2, 3. But it has better passthrough cameras, just like the quest 3, which gives you the possibility, just like in the quest 3, to play combined reality games.

Maybe paradoxically, due to the lack of vr controllers, a lot of mixed reality games will be created.
There are very few of them today due to their low popularity and the fact that only the quest 3 supports it in a way that is acceptable.


Personally, I abandon the topic, and unsubscribe from notifications, I say things that cause a lot of emotions, and are difficult to accept.

And I don't want to make anybody sad.

Once again, all the best and I wish you a great joy of enjoying the vr world. :p2chell:
whigmalwhim Jan 25, 2024 @ 5:06am 
Originally posted by Flashgod_VR:
In the first sentence: "Intel-based Mac"...
Yeah, though that may just be for Final Cut. SteamVR loads up fine on an ARM based Mac, but also has the issue of not detecting a headset. There is no list provided by Steam or Apple listing compatibility.
I’ve also tried compiling Valves OpenVR [github.com] library, however, it doesn’t seem to work even though Mac is listed in the CMAKE.
Edit: To be clear the compilation issue could be something to do with my compiler configuration. It always fails with Objective-C++ code even though I am using Clang. Everything else compiles fine
Last edited by whigmalwhim; Jan 25, 2024 @ 5:13am
grzegorz77 Jan 25, 2024 @ 12:06pm 
I had somewhere in the back of my mind, mac and these new Vr.
And I was wondering if there is any vr game from pc vr that has a chance to run on these goggles.
And I figured it out, it's Subnaitica.
Subnaitica doesn't need VR controllers, works with an Xbox gamepad and works on Mac.

So if someone doesn't find anything else, and gets depressed, that's a rescue, you can swim with the fish.
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