pc doesn't have displayport compatability. is there a way to fix this?

[LaughingArsonist]

I recently bought a valve index, only to be told that my computer (MSI GF65 Thin 9SD) doesn't have displayport compatability and that my usb-c ports do not support displayport. is there a way for me to bypass the displayport or to somehow add displayport compatability onto my computer, or do i need a whole new computer?

[Dr Axton]

From what I understood, you have a laptop, so adding a display port is not an option. One thing you can try is finding some hdmi-displayport adapters, though keep in mind they might also require a free usb slot(it's because displayport also transfers power).
As for the comment above, ignore it, dude was too lazy even check if you have a PC or laptop

[necrophonic]

Originally posted by Devistation:

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Or, you know, you could accept that not everyone is super great with computers and are just asking for advice so you could:

1) Actually offer some sensible advice, even if that is "yes, sorry, you are going to need a new laptop or an external graphics card"; or
2) Not respond at all; and in general
3) Not be a *** to someone just asking advice
4) What you've done is well... I'm not even going to say what it makes you look like as it's pretty clear to everyone. And to give you a clue, it's not "look really clever and funny"

Ah well, another for the block list. But to the point of actually helping the Op:

Originally posted by LaughingArsonist:

I recently bought a valve index, only to be told that my computer (MSI GF65 Thin 9SD) doesn't have displayport compatability ...

Dr Axton has pretty much already covered it, but in addition you could potentially look at an external graphics card unit (such as https://windowsreport.com/usb-c-external-gpu/)

To caveat, I don't know much about them and have never used them, so I'd recommend finding someone with a bit more experience to get advice before you drop some money on one.

[faaiiL]

I don't have an index, but I would try to get a displayport to hdmi adapter and see if it works. If it doesn't work - I'd prob try to return the index and get my money back. If you are new to VR and still wanna try it. Get an oculus quest 2. I use high end headsets like Pimax 8k plus, but I'm still amazed by how much you get from a cheap standalone from oculus nowadays. You can use it without your laptop in standalone or connect it via USB cable to play PCVR. Also if you have a good 5ghz router you can get Virtual Desktop to play wirelessly. Its a solid product for cheap, however you'll need a facebook account to login (at least once).

[Bob Loblaw]

hdmi to displayport adapter is not going to work with a valve index.

[grzegorz77]

This will not be the only problem, you need a computer not a laptop. As it must be portable, change the goggles. When it's supposed to be in one place buy a real pc, because that's just the beginning of the problems.

[Mccree]

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[Officer Unfriendly]

Originally posted by necrophonic:

Originally posted by Devistation:

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Or, you know, you could accept that not everyone is super great with computers and are just asking for advice so you could:

1) Actually offer some sensible advice, even if that is "yes, sorry, you are going to need a new laptop or an external graphics card"; or
2) Not respond at all; and in general
3) Not be a *** to someone just asking advice
4) What you've done is well... I'm not even going to say what it makes you look like as it's pretty clear to everyone. And to give you a clue, it's not "look really clever and funny"

Ah well, another for the block list. But to the point of actually helping the Op:

Originally posted by LaughingArsonist:

I recently bought a valve index, only to be told that my computer (MSI GF65 Thin 9SD) doesn't have displayport compatability ...

Dr Axton has pretty much already covered it, but in addition you could potentially look at an external graphics card unit (such as https://windowsreport.com/usb-c-external-gpu/)

To caveat, I don't know much about them and have never used them, so I'd recommend finding someone with a bit more experience to get advice before you drop some money on one.

i mean if you buy something FOR a computer that costs 1k you would think to learn about what it needs n stuff

[necrophonic]

Originally posted by De8264:

i mean if you buy something FOR a computer that costs 1k you would think to learn about what it needs n stuff

True, but maybe they were misled by the fact most VR kits seem to use HDMI rather than Displayport (I've seen plenty of things that say "VR ready HDMI!") or they asked where they bought it and the sales person basically lied (or just didn't care; or was wrong themselves) to get the sale.

Either way, people make mistakes, and you can choose to not be an **** when responding to them.

If the Op went on a "blame everyone but myself" rant like some threads on here when the problem very clearly is sitting the chair, then fair, but don't go off on someone that's made a genuine mistake.

[The Maddog]

Originally posted by necrophonic:

Originally posted by De8264:

i mean if you buy something FOR a computer that costs 1k you would think to learn about what it needs n stuff

True, but maybe they were misled by the fact most VR kits seem to use HDMI rather than Displayport (I've seen plenty of things that say "VR ready HDMI!") or they asked where they bought it and the sales person basically lied (or just didn't care; or was wrong themselves) to get the sale.

Either way, people make mistakes, and you can choose to not be an **** when responding to them.

That's all fair enough but it wont change the fact that it takes all of a few moments to read the actual spec requirements for the Index. No sales people or miss-information involved. It's all there, clear as day on the actual Index sales page.

https://store.steampowered.com/valveindex

Available DisplayPort required, HDMI not supported.

It even goes on to state laptops may not be supported when you go into product support (along with mentioning the display-port requirement yet again).

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4061-QUZB-4602

So being fair valve made sure this massive requirement pops up.....repeatedly.

Originally posted by necrophonic:

If the Op went on a "blame everyone but myself" rant like some threads on here when the problem very clearly is sitting the chair, then fair, but don't go off on someone that's made a genuine mistake.

What is said and how it's said are two different things and yes, some people do blame everyone but themselves.


But none of this resolves the OPs issue and bad information has already been given. So I will give all the correct answers

Firstly, HDMI to display port adaptors do not work with the Index. A HDMI port does not have enough signal bandwidth for the index to work so don't buy one of them.

Secondly, it needs to be known there is no cheap guaranteed 1 adaptor works on all model laptop solution. Different laptops (even ones that fall within the same product line range) can have slightly different internal configurations depending on internal components and which factory assembled them.

So there is a possibility that it wont work with any standard adaptor, ever!

In the case of the MSI GF65 Thin 9SD you need a "USB C to Display-Port" adaptor. As for exactly which model, some work and some don't so check reviews before you purchase (but again, I have to stress even if one person says it works with their laptop, it's not a guarantee it will work with yours).

If a USB C to Display-port adaptor works....great, it's problem solved.

If not there are only 2 other solutions available, neither of which are cheap (especially at this moment in time).

Your first option is to purchase a dedicated GPU card and eGPU (External Graphics Card Enclosure) for your laptop. Like I said, not cheap and with this solution you will also suffer performance loss on the GPU. This can be anything up to 40% depending on the hardware used and the software it's rendering. This is completely unavoidable due to the bandwidth limitations of using an external card. As such you'll want to buy a higher performing card than what you'll think you need to reach those levels. So for example, if you want the performance of a 1060 6GB GPU, you need to be at least buying a 1070 ti get a 1060's standard perforce.

The Second option is to either buy a laptop with a display port OR build / buy a gaming desktop PC.

In both of the above solutions, you're currently screwed due to the world wide shortage. Plus, I honestly think eGPUs are a waste of money but if you absolutely have to have a laptop but dont want to buy a more suitable model (and none of them really are for the Index) then it's all you can do.

If anyone else wants to add anything to all of that, feel free but as far as I know, I've covered the only possible viable solutions for that model of laptop.

[grzegorz77]

Originally posted by The Maddog:

Originally posted by necrophonic:

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https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4061-QUZB-4602
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Originally posted by necrophonic:

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mistake.

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Firstly, HDMI to display port adaptors do not work with the Index
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So there is a possibility that it wont work with any standard adaptor, ever!

In the case of the MSI GF65 Thin 9SD you need a "USB C to Display-Port" adaptor. As for
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it's not a guarantee it will work with yours).
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If anyone else wants to add anything to all of that, feel free but as far as I know, I've covered the only possible viable solutions for that model of laptop.
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I think you are wrong on many issues. There's so much of it that I don't even want to describe it. You're a little right, but you're wrong on a lot of things.

And proposing a laptop to use index is very bad advice.
It only makes sense if you already have a laptop, and somehow it worked with the (vr) games you want to play .

[The Maddog]

Originally posted by grzegorz77:

I think you are wrong on many issues. There's so much of it that I don't even want to describe it. You're a little right, but you're wrong on a lot of things.

Ah yes, they typical internet nonsense of "you're wrong because I said so" argument with no counter argument or proof. Well done you for contributing nothing to the discussion.

Originally posted by grzegorz77:

And proposing a laptop to use index is very bad advice.
It only makes sense if you already have a laptop, and somehow it worked with the (vr) games you want to play .

At no point did I ever propose for using a laptop with an Index (I literally discussed how Valve list that certain model laptops may not be supported) but unlike you I'm more than aware many models of laptop do work with the Index.

Originally posted by grzegorz77:

you need a computer not a laptop.

Demonstrably provable that you're very wrong on a lot of things. Stop wasting everyone's time and furthermore, stop trying to get people to spend money they might not have to.

[grzegorz77]

Originally posted by The Maddog:

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Originally posted by grzegorz77:

you need a computer not a laptop.

Demonstrably provable that you're very wrong on a lot of things. Stop wasting everyone's time and furthermore, stop trying to get people to spend money they might not have to.

Dude.
I will not lead you out of error, for half an hour.

I just pointed out that, you are not right, that someone who has little idea about, it can pay attention to it.
And he could judge the situation himself.

I don't feel like talking to you, I knew what it was going to look like before I wrote you off.
So think to yourself what you want. I don't see a chance to talk to you.

I'll say it again, think what you want.
I won't even answer you anymore.