Can someone give me full auto rifle or smg with infinite ammo

[Morticus Khan]

really i want some good fire arm

[Blade Master]

No.

[Montenico, Lord of Boxes]

Auto rifle with infinite ammo?

in my neighborhood that's called cheating.

[Poppi !!]

Aaaand, no.

[Civilian]

Haha ^^. Go get a hard work kit. ^^.

[DEVOLVE MINHA CACHAÇA!]

This community can never have enough of cheaters, apparently.

[Tymon]

I'd rather have a rifle with a silencer, myself. too bad they don't exist.

[Agarillobob]

Messaggio originale di Montenico:

Auto rifle with infinite ammo?

in my neighborhood that's called cheating.

in my neighbourhood thats called hacking

Messaggio originale di Charles Mass, the Little Mouse:

This community can never have enough of cheaters, apparently.

thats would not be cheating that would be hacking

[DEVOLVE MINHA CACHAÇA!]

Messaggio originale di Agarillobob:

Messaggio originale di Montenico:

Auto rifle with infinite ammo?

in my neighborhood that's called cheating.

in my neighbourhood thats called hacking

Messaggio originale di Charles Mass, the Little Mouse:

This community can never have enough of cheaters, apparently.

thats would not be cheating that would be hacking

Both things, actually. In this game, you achieve certain cheats, like guns with infinite ammo, melee weapons with absurd stats, grappling hooks with elemental effects, etc, through hacking game files.

It's cheating either way.

[Agarillobob]

oh come on we already had this give me a sec

[Agarillobob]

Messaggio originale di Charles Mass, the Little Mouse:

Messaggio originale di Agarillobob:

in my neighbourhood thats called hacking


thats would not be cheating that would be hacking

Both things, actually. In this game, you achieve certain cheats, like guns with infinite ammo, melee weapons with absurd stats, grappling hooks with elemental effects, etc, through hacking game files.

It's cheating either way.

cheating, people always call everything cheating and thats why we finally decided to make this copy text so that whoever tries to explain the differences does not have to write it over and over again, sometimes multiple times per week.


what is cheating? If you search for a defeniton on google or wikipedia you likely get something like getting an unfair advantage or something. Yes, if I look my opponents in the cards and I know what cards he has, thats unfair and therefore cheating. If I steal money from the bank in monopoly that is cheating as well. that is the definiton for cheating in card games or boards games. Next we have the definition for cheating in exams , if I look up the answers during an exam in university that is cheating as well. then there is still the cheating in sports or competitions. Then there is cheating in relationships.... and many more
Now we ask ourselves what is cheating in videogames? Its really simple! its the Input of cheatcodes,(and the input of console commands) nothing more nothing less. Even the corresponding wikipedia article on this gets it wrong and needs to be updated ASAP.

Now there are different things like glitching or hacking, 95% of people call this cheating as well, but they are wrong.

"Hacking" is the use of a third party device or program to insert, delete or change code in a game. It can be a simple mod that only changes a skin, making a taxi look red and not yellow.(keep in mind that sometimes developers themselves make mods or they have people inflicted with them who make mods, but even then first party or second party mods are still to be considered hacks) (and yes every mod is a hack not every hack is a mod) Cheat Engine for example should rather be called Hack engine since it changes the code of a game in the RAM while it is running, not a cheat, a hack. a joystick changing the GPS (spoofing) is a form of hacking as well. save file editors, bots, Hex editors... those things are all hacks. People often think Hacking has to have some kind of Ill intend behind it like hacking a bank account or something but no, thats only a different form of hacking.

"Bug using/abusing" is a one time thing that happens periodically, something in the games coding gets a hiccup and you now have unlimited ammo for example, a bug usually resolves if you restart the game.

A "Glitch" is basically what happens to a bug if you find a consistend way of reproducing it, if you die and jump of a cliff at the same time you respawn with 0 health and are invincible?And you can repeat this whenever you want? Yea thats a glitch at its finest. There are major glitches (skipping missions, content, mechanics) and Minor glitches. Clipping through walls and zipping through areas are part of glitches but can be categorized on their own.

A "Skip" is something when you take a shortcut using in game mechanics . it can be something simple like jumping over a conversation trigger to not talk with a certain NPC and don´t have to watch a cutscene for example or using a grenade or enemy to propell yourself upwards with the knockback (damage boost) and reach an area you are not supposed to reach yet.

"Exploiting" is the abuse of game mechanics to gain favors you should not have, like Powerleveling and such.

"Griefing" is the process of stealing another players items in an online game, usually with normal gameplay mechanics.

"Smurfing" is the use of a new account or getting a low ranking on purpose even tho you are technically supposed to be playing in a higher "league" in several competitive online games

"Shaving" is using a secondary account on the opposing team to either give your team an advantage by playing bad with said secondary account or even playing against the team of your main account to get advantages for your main account

and NO "Cheating" is NOT just a topic for all that, the noun advanced from unfair gameplay in offline situations into the use of cheatcodes (console commands) in video games


so yea all these things will be called cheating by the majority of people that use the internet or care for video games while cheating is just the input of cheatcodes. In offline board/card games, exams, sports and other situations, yes, its getting an unfair advantage, but in video games the definition is different. Don´t get me wrong but the input of cheatcodes is probably the most legit thing you can do since they were intentionally put into the game by the game developers(same goes for console commands they were intentionally left by the developers).

Hacking, Bug using/abusing, Glitching, Using Skips, Exploiting... are all UNLEGIT and unintended ways of playing a game. If you play a singleplayer game you can do all of that whatever you want. I would advise against many of that for a first time casual playthrough nontheless. Plkease keep all of that stuff out of online multiplayer or co-op games. If you played the game already feel free to use all the fun glitches. In speedruns all of those things are allowed anyways, only real thing that is not allowed is any sort of hacking and ususally no cheating as well. There are ususally glitchless categories or No major Glitches categories.


You can either accept this text or ignore it. There is no reason in trying to argue against a factual text (and yes this is a factual text concluded by multiple people with technical and especially video game term definition related know how and not some sort of a single person opinion), you are not the first one that tried to do that but in the end it did not lead to major changes since this is mostly correct how it is presented right now. I updated small things here and there throughout the years.

[Poppi !!]

Could you repeat that Bob ? I wasn't really paying attention.

[Tymon]

Saying all mods are 'hacks' and unlegit methods of playing games when there are entire games that revolve around their mod-ability. Like skyrim, fallout, starbound, minecraft... That's honestly so ridiculous it's not even funny. Especially when like in skyrim, many mods are actually BUG FIXES which RESTORE the developer's intended way of playing because the programmers/developers screwed up.

[Poppi !!]

Well said Tymon.

[onward]

Okay, Agarillobob, adding things to your inventory like weapons that are not meant to be obtained in the vanilla game through hacking is most ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ certainly cheating. I understand that some forms of hacking aren't cheating, and I'm all for singleplayer mods or mods that don't change things to give someone an advantage, but a weapon with infinite ammo is most certainly cheating.

[BlackWater]

Messaggio originale di Montenico:

Auto rifle with infinite ammo?

in my neighborhood that's called cheating.

At the local range that would be called Heaven on earth...you seen ammo prices lately? real life, not Dying Light..