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again you still don't understand and feel the need to try to put me down.
at no point do i not care about team mates, never said that, I don't care about you and your fun, no one does, only you, that is why you want us to all play your way.
this team mate thing you have going, that is all in your head, that is you trying to impose it onto me but sorry, during a game that is not how I play and die many times more than I would if i didn't try to help.
if all you can do is mild abuse with this rubbish, then you are pointless until you come up with an idea that helps.
give it a go, think of a solution.
start with the why, followed by what can be done about it.
oh no, you are the selfish one,#
you can't understand why people leave,
you demand that we play your way, #
you call people cheats,
what makes you think we should all play your way?
nothing and that is what you don't like.
as said, think of a solution because so far you have not.
Oh poor you, still making excuses for lazy players. Nah fam, when you and your squad make Best Squad game after game and routinely place top half of the team, and you lose because seven idiots left, yeah, it's the ODlers.
Repeat after me: Every. Gun. Counts.
See above. They lose one, they leave. Even a player who has 3 deaths typically has many assists, and I've thanked even players who 'did nothing' for playing the critical role of distraction. War Thunder is far, far more than personal lion gain. A dead player is cover.
I agree. ODLers are bad players that need severe punishment. In fact, every vehicle they can spawn, that they don't spawn, should be put on the regular locked status *and* cost repair :D
I know how to fix the problem. Force them to pay repair either or, and suddenly spawning and contributing is worth more than doing nothing. Funny how that works- especially so given the reduced death costs coming up.
See above. It is more than ODlers, but it is primarily ODLers that skewed match results and *got* certain vehicles to have absurd repair costs. You can't seem or don't want to understand that, possibly because doing so would undermine your position in its entirety.
I will play the game my way, and push for others to *play* the game, instead of ODLing and QQing about it.
You don't care about anyone else's fun except your own.
Regardless of the rubbish people like you come up with in a vain attempt to excuse ODLing.
Assists, corpses are cover, every gun counts, and every body is one more target. I'd rather have an ally next to me who can't pen my target, available to TAKE fire, so I can. This is teamwork that you just can't put a price on, and it's a shame there's no way to reward them for this aside from the Adamant medal, which gives a paltry amount. But it counts, and it can and has won games. No more excuses.
Give the problem a thought or carry on crying, we will carry on putting you ODLers on blast and laughing as you try to tell us how much you can't be bothered to learn to avoid doing the same thing that gets you killed, and telling us how to play the game by 'just winning despite four ODLers a match.'
False. Exceedingly few matches where you have a surplus of ODLers are matches you can win. Again, no more excuses.
ODLers have terrible win rates. I don't blame the BR system for ODLers making their CHOICE, but I do blame Gaijin for not decompressing now that the playerbase has expanded well over the point they compressed it for....... hahahahahaha
It is a game, you died, get over it and move on like anyone normal. You have to stop throwing matches, crying about it, and then blaming everyone else and foisting the burden to fix it on the people you are failing. Hahaha no.
Not a single argument, nothing but excuses. The only remotely useful information here is the point that BRs should be decompressed, but that has little to do with ODLers and is not an excuse.
There is a tree, somewhere out there, tirelessly producing the oxygen that you breathe. You owe that tree an apology.
hahaha no one cares, you are now just arguing, well done.
idiots saying that because i play this way i'm selfish, I don't, that is not how I play
but they don't read that bit.
People thinking they are clever by calling me a cheat, sorry,
that person at that point became pointless and showed they had nothing to help the problem other than abuse and acting like a 12 year old.
you say i'm throwing matches, there you go, just abusive,
you have nothing to say on the problem at this point either when you start talking like that and like the cheat comment, just shows you have nothing constructive to say other than abuse and acting also like a 12 year old.
You have no proof and yet now make things up.
I do understand why people do it.
you have spent time trying to argue when you have not spent any time giving the problem any thought and why people do it.
you only think of yourself.
give the problem some thought, think of a solution, then suggest it.
crying on a forum just gives the rest of us a laugh.
But more importantly gaijin will ignore you while you keep crying and doing nothing positive.
hahah does not mater how you dress it up,
you thought you were being clever by the way you called me a cheat and now you are swearing.
shows you have nothing to say and anyone that has ever had a constructive argument knows that with the way you are acting and i'm not the smart one.....ok, what every.
you are just abusive because someone does not agree with you.
if you can't think of a solution or understand why people do it, it is like asking for help but you have not.
Everyone that does it is wrong in your mind.
give the problem some thought, understand why people do it, then think of a solution.
being abusive just gets you ignored and any idea you have binned before it is even looked at and gaijin knows that.
but what ever, keep ranting, making things up and thinking you are clever by swearing and calling people cheats.
Yes indeed, nobody cares for your excuses, and you are now just arguing- I guess putting forth one's argument in a thing is somehow... bad, now? At least according to ODL crybabies.
Idiots thinking we're all talking about you and you alone are truly, truly, self-absorbed. It's not just you, you're not that special. Your crime is defending the undefendable practice of ODL. You want to fight against Gaijiggles practices? Go tell them directly, don't throw or encourage the throwing of games.
Where did anyone say you were a cheat, eh? Sources, now.
No, just stating facts.
There is no cheat comment, do not try to inject a strawman argument and think it'll get past me, pal, you and your ilk aren't clever when you do this. We have plenty to say on the problem- but condoning ODLing is not something that is defendable. We also don't need to resort to putting words in the opposition's mouth to try and make a point, unlike you.
You and those you defend are not being 'abused', you're beyond redemption and unabashedly ODLing, encouraging or condoning it, and as an intransigent person, I will not treat you with the respect I would someone who is willing to actually communicate and understand the opposition. It is time for you to stop stamping your feet like the 12 year old you are, that you keep projecting on others, and accept that you will die to stupid situations, and that doesn't warrant backing out immediately.
Also very ironic that someone who thinks I've said they've cheated, is saying I make things up. Project harder. Cope. Grow up.
Do you understand that it is indefensible and unacceptable? If not, fall silent.
Wrong. It may not be what you like, but you don't get to put words in my mouth, bucko. Reality is that which still exists, even if you don't believe it. You have spent time trying to argue and defend indefensible ODLing, instead of spending any time giving the problem any thought and why people must stop, else, be punished harshly.
As you say, you only think of yourself, and your ilk, getting away with throwing games and condoning terrible sportsmanship.
As you say, and for the umpteenth time, give the problem some thought, think of a solution, then suggest it. Do not ODL. Crying on a forum looking for sycophants to kiss your wounded ego just gives the rest of us a laugh.
Yes, your alledged problem will be ignored since you and your ilk are not suggesting any solutions, simply ODLing like children and making the problem worse.
You have been informed why and how ODLing has caused part of this problem, by throwing games and causing lopsided statistics. You are part of the problem. Stop being part of the problem, and stop encouraging and defending those other ODLers who are part of the problem. You are doing nothing positive by stamping your feet and ignoring all of us telling you, in no uncertain terms, that ODLing accomplishes nothing.
If you cannot move on and suggest better instead of stamping your feet and throwing a tantrum about how you should be allowed to ODL with no repercussions, then kindly show yourself out.
Oh my god you're unsalvageable. You're afraid of words and when told DIRECTLY that you were not called a cheat, you insist on the narrative because to admit you, childlike you, were wrong is impossible, unthinkable. It's always everyone else, never you, is it?
Right here. This right here. Look in a mirror, bucko, because this is you. You don't like that people disagree with you, and so here you are, throwing your tantrum.
Exactly. Why. You. Are. Being. Shot. Down. As. An. Intransigent. Child.
You literally had nothing of substance in your reply to them. Nothing. Just whining about how words are scary. They're not. Escalator words serve to show someone's displeasure at your actions, and in this case your whining about them means they are working. Your actions are not constructive, and not helpful, and when confronted by even the slightest use of escalator words you devolve into 'oh no swearing.'
Obligatory pointing out that you're calling people idiots, yet want your opponents- and only your opponents- to play nice. Not how the world works, kiddo.
no games are being throw as you seem to think,
both sides have the same problem,
the people that throw away vehicles, BAD players cost me a game,
3 or more deaths no kills, cost me the game.
one deaths do not.
I only hope they are having fun but I do not blame them.
bad players and yet you can't see this, just keep looking for any reason for why you lost except the obvious.
you want people to stay, play better as a team.
and yet here you are with no ideas,
missing the point,
think and come up with a solution.
I guess that is not going to happen, too many people can only think for themselves and not see other peoples points of view.
and i know i'm not special but lots in this thread seem to think they know best and that we should all play their way.
sorry,
what makes your way any better than other peoples, nothing.
come up with a good idea,
or just rant on a forum.
I'll leave you too it as it seems other than rant you have no ideas.#
good luck with that.
Otherwise, I will leave if I risk losing another tank because of air dominance or spawn killing.
Besides, there has to be a way to implement it in such a way that it would only help those who don't have anything other than one premium vehicle at certain BRs.
take a shot whenever you see a post about leaving matches after one death
you will have a failed liver by the end