is this game p2w or pay to skip grind?

[TheChallenger]

i see that there is some planes, tanks, ships locked behind paywall are they any better then those i can get for free or they give some sort of advantage?

[Your_White_Knight]

Originally posted by TheChallenger:

is this game p2w or pay to skip grind?

i see that there is some planes, tanks, ships locked behind paywall are they any better then those i can get for free or they give some sort of advantage?

"Pay to skip grind" if anything

The "Premiums" that are payed for are a little bit better, but they don't buy you skills

A skilled player can be just as good with a grind tank as a unskilled player with a Premium, that's why you see all the "it's a scam" threads by salty people who bought tanks thought they were going to win all the time now and got schooled by a player with skills

[Mirage]

Both.

[Torn_Apart]

If you think it could be ptw, try buying the highest br vehicle you can. Then play it for a while. Then tell me you think you can ptw by using it.
P.s don't do that. It would be terrible for you.

[Jaes]

Generally speaking, most Premium vehicles aren't as good or just on par as tech tree vehicles. They usually offer some unique gimmick or quirk to play around with.

There are a few exceptions to this, but they don't offer an inherent advantage whether or not you spend money on the game.

War Thunder's primary monetization scheme is to get you to pay to shorten the grind. If you're interested in playing, but not sure if you're wanting to commit long term, I always recommend playing until you reach at least Rank IV in your preferred nation. That way, you've spent enough time playing the game to know whether or not you enjoy it and generally makes it easier to determine if you want to make purchasing decisions.

Purchasing Premium Account status is always a safe bet if you do want to make a purchase sooner rather than later. Another thing to keep in mind is that War Thunder's anniversary sale will start at the end of October so it's a good opportunity to get some discounts on Premium Account and Premium vehicles.

[Golden Knight]

pay to skip you cant beat number of enemies with any extraordinary tank or plane

[SOP.D]

For an extreme example my buddy bought the classic top tier Russian premium lineup and premium time. It costs about $125ish US dollars. He started playing with me when the current event started back on October 3rd. He's now researching all ground tech tree lines at 9.7. It took him only a couple weeks to grind a tree that has one of the most extensive vehicle lists. Of course it time will varry based on player skill but both premium time and a premium vehicle will greatly boost player progression rather than a pure f2p player. It's not p2w, it's pay to progress more than anything. If you are going to buy something in the future wait for the sales which is right around the corner. Usually premium time (most important) is heavily discounted and usually there will be a sale on the pack vehicles which lumps premium vehicles + premium time for 50% (usually some gimmick like buy 2 for 50%. It changes from year to year). Hope that clears stuff up.

[N.F.C. PepeUltimate]

this game is ass cheeks and a bad drug i would honestly save yourself the trouble and not play it

[~$$~ BlackCatTheGreat]

It's pay 2 skip, but you can't pay 2 win. Heading as quickly as you can up the battle ratings means you won't have the skills to compete at those higher tiers. One of the major problems with top tiers in this game is that there are vehicles you can buy to play at top tier, but those players only have that vehicle, and don't know how to play the game so they ruin it for everyone else.

[Gold Merchant Lev]

I’ve gotten loads of premium vehicles over the years and only one ever I felt was OP (the sea vixen) and that’s only if you play it a very specific way which most players don’t find very fun. This is a pay to skip the grind game imo, some of the premiums I’ve bought are basically the exact same as tech tree ones but give research and silver lion bonuses which make progressing easier.

[v1ce]

Its pay to skip grind. You can see when there is a sale for some tank. Whole team using it and they still lose. Premium won't buy u a brain.

[~$$~ BlackCatTheGreat]

Originally posted by N.F.C. PepeUltimate:

this game is ass cheeks and a bad drug i would honestly save yourself the trouble and not play it

Ya, if you're stupid. If you aren't stupid, this won't be a problem.

[JMC067 Lewis]

Originally posted by TheChallenger:

i see that there is some planes, tanks, ships locked behind paywall are they any better then those i can get for free or they give some sort of advantage?

It's a bit of both. Skipping the grind at low levels is pretty cheap and probably worth it. But at the same time, buying your way in at higher levels will do you no favours because you won't learn the game.
There are some premiums that definitely roflstomp everyone, especially in the ARB where a small performance edge counts for a lot more.
But as others say, you can't buy the skill side, and a standard tank, fully researched, and played well will generally do well in any ground battle.

[leser]

both and anyone that disagrees has no idea what theyre talking about

[Tankoslav Tepyatdesyatpyatovich]

Mostly pay to skip grind, but since you can't be 100% effective in a vehicle without spading it (okay, some don't need literally all modification, like you can skip MG belts and MG tuning for B-57B if you just switch to cannons, or skip bombs for fighters which just don't need them, or night vision device on tanks that are too much lower than 10.0, and you won't see any night battles with them, but still, you'll want the majority of modifications installed), straight up buying modifications with GE or premium (and possibly RP boosters) to speed up the grind can be considered P2W (at least for the initial matches where you'd lose tactically or in general otherwise) imo.
And there is a handful of premium and event (available on the Market for Gaijin coins) vehicles that can grant you higher chances of winning than their counterparts at the same br (whether your opponent a bit higher or the same skill as yours), so they are P2W technically. Also, a bunch of premium vehicles that make the process of completing events and Battle Pass tasks and challenges far more easier (XF5F, for example, but ironically, this one isn't P2W, as I along with many players got it for free, but Wyvern still counts), and even if you play all nations and have access to the tech-tree vehicles which suit each task the most, you may still require some premiums - kind of either pay-to-win, or pay-to-skip-pain, not sure about it.

So...both, I guess? If you don't plan to play top tier and even a couple of ranks before it (stick to WW2 era), you'll still find some pay-to-win pieces of war machinery at these lower ranks, and for higher ranks, paying is a must.

[PoorMan Nate]

Yes