What's the point of helicopters with unguided rockets?

[Serious Sam]

(on example of german UH-1D)

You try to fly to the battlefield - you get shot by SPAA, often with missiles

You fly low to avoid radar until you you get to the battlefield - you get shot by everyone (including SPAA) when you get there cause you're very low

You fly low and around the map to flank and have the element of surprise - you don't have the element of surprise cause everyone heard you from miles away, and by the time you pop up to look for targets you have at least 3 enemies aiming at you, most of the time including IFV with autocannons

On your tenth game you got lucky and didn't get obliterated by IFV and SPAA - tank you were trying to shoot had top mounted HMG and damaged your fuselage enough to turn off your weapons

You try to progress the tree some other way - there is no other way


Thoughts?

[Fully operational death star]

yeah there is a reason 'research helicopters with ground vehicles' is an option, you will develop mental conditions if you try and progress with the helis, hell just stock grinding a heli with either ground RB or heli PVE is a very prolific method of self torture

[Serious Sam]

Originally posted by Fully operational death star:

yeah there is a reason 'research helicopters with ground vehicles' is an option, you will develop mental conditions if you try and progress with the helis, hell just stock grinding a heli with either ground RB or heli PVE is a very prolific method of self torture

I genuinely forgot it's there. When they added it i went "Oh, nice", used it for one game, and turned it off because tanks are my main focus, and promptly forgot about it. Altough back then i was using Alouette so i didn't really need that feature. Even now i don't think i'll use it because i don't want to deny myself the progress in ground tree

[Akagi]

At some point helicopters get rocket CCIP which allows you to accurately aim at even 2-3 kilomters distance. Sadly the UH-1D does not have the CCIP so yeah that's a bit a horrible stock grind

[MissNurseXochi]

Suffering

[Serious Sam]

Originally posted by Akagi:

At some point helicopters get rocket CCIP which allows you to accurately aim at even 2-3 kilomters distance. Sadly the UH-1D does not have the CCIP so yeah that's a bit a horrible stock grind

I died to something like that once. I thought the guy just had more hours in game then i have since birth. Makes sense though

[Akagi]

Originally posted by Serious Sam:

Originally posted by Akagi:

At some point helicopters get rocket CCIP which allows you to accurately aim at even 2-3 kilomters distance. Sadly the UH-1D does not have the CCIP so yeah that's a bit a horrible stock grind

I died to something like that once. I thought the guy just had more hours in game then i have since birth. Makes sense though

A tactic I find pretty usefull with the 9.3/9.7 Ah-1s and the Mi-24s is when I end up immobilising an enemy with one of my agms I just dump my entire load of uguided rockets into, it usually results in a kill. Also works pretty well against SPAAs that are shooting at since some of them only start moving when they see a missile flying in their direction and don't expect a barrage of rockets from 3 km away, saves you your agm for other tanks

[Bob]

I have a better question; What's the point of Helicopters?

[Akagi]

Originally posted by Aim Bob:

I have a better question; What's the point of Helicopters?

Strong vehicles that can be hard to counter locked behind an insane grindwall so you shove money in Gaijin's face to skip tech tree/stock grind

Or in other words: Cash cows

[MissNurseXochi]

Originally posted by Akagi:

Originally posted by Aim Bob:

I have a better question; What's the point of Helicopters?

Strong vehicles that can be hard to counter locked behind an insane grindwall so you shove money in Gaijin's face to skip tech tree/stock grind

Or in other words: Cash cows

True.

[SpiralRazor]

theres no point in using early helicopters, most especially the 7.7 one.

[Mirage]

It's purely to get you to spend money, helicopters cannot possibly be designed this poorly with intention, they just want you to GE them or buy a premium heli as they're unplayable.

[Eftwyrd]

One thing I’ve seen done on the helicopters with large enough numbers of rockets is using them like long range artillery, just sit a few km outside the battlefield and try to lob them at a cap point. Without CCIP you have to watch the fall of the rockets and figure out your aim point manually which means you will waste a ton of rockets but it can be done

[jaxjace]

The ones without CCIP are pretty much useless, the skill required to use them with an aiming reticule that means nothing with no frame of reference pretty much means that unless you live eat sleep and breathe this helicopter and play it so much that you just "know" where the rockets will hit at any range; you arent going to be doing anything with it. The only way to "aim" them will be to barrage fire them and "walk" them to the target. These helis are speed bumps on the road to better ones and spading them is only for completions sake for most people.

[Serious Sam]

And let's not forget about those rockets tendency to do nothing even when they impact the target.
I'm actually thinking about about switching rocket pods for 7.62mm miniguns and camping enemy helicopter airfield. Do you guys think that could work? XD

[Tankoslav Tepyatdesyatpyatovich]

UH-1D? That one eventually gets 6 ATGMs to kill tanks and other helis, just needs 33k RP or buying two modifications for GE on sale. I thought you meant the Japanese UH-1B with the puny armament choice of 38xMighty Mice or AH-1G/Tzefa A with no ATGMs as well (but at least they have a turret and additional fixed guns against helis).