Luchs A2 is underperforming and overtiered

[Spielführer]

The Luchs A2 is too slow, not accelerating fast enough, the sound is too loud and is simply overtiered on 7.3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrDt9S0MovE
It was able to run 100km/h forward and backwards.

Fix it!

[Soldner42]

Originally posted by Spielführer:

The Luchs A2 is too slow, not accelerating fast enough, the sound is too loud and is simply overtiered on 7.3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrDt9S0MovE
It was able to run 100km/h forward and backwards.

Fix it!

Lets not talk about what Japan just received in this Update. xD
Imagine the Luchs, but sitting 2 full BRs higher. xD

[Mirage]

Originally posted by Soldner42:

Originally posted by Spielführer:

The Luchs A2 is too slow, not accelerating fast enough, the sound is too loud and is simply overtiered on 7.3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrDt9S0MovE
It was able to run 100km/h forward and backwards.

Fix it!

Lets not talk about what Japan just received in this Update. xD
Imagine the Luchs, but sitting 2 full BRs higher. xD

Japan has the Sub l ll with the same gun at 5.3 or something, but it's SPAA.
ICV has 116mm APFSDS opposed to 66mm of APDS.

Back before German 20mm get nerfed, we had 20mm with 64mm of pen at 1.0.. now we get 66mm at 7.3.

[Chaoslord 87]

Originally posted by Soldner42:

Lets not talk about what Japan just received in this Update. xD
Imagine the Luchs, but sitting 2 full BRs higher. xD

Japan already have a rough equivalent for the Luchs, the Type 87 RCV (P).
Same armor, mobility and pretty much the same firepower.
But unlikely the Luchs, the Proto Type 87 is slower in reverse and even higher in BR at 7.7.

[Mirage]

Originally posted by Chaoslord 87:

Originally posted by Soldner42:

Lets not talk about what Japan just received in this Update. xD
Imagine the Luchs, but sitting 2 full BRs higher. xD

Japan already have a rough equivalent for the Luchs, the Type 87 RCV (P).
Same armor, mobility and pretty much the same firepower.
But unlikely the Luchs, the Proto Type 87 is slower in reverse and even higher in BR at 7.7.

It also has a stabilizer at the very least, and it still doesn't justify the BR.
They have a tiny bit more pen than a Marder at 7.7 but without the ATGM, and the Marder is still garbage.

Neither should be at those BRs.

[Chaoslord 87]

Originally posted by Mirage:

It also has a stabilizer at the very least, and it still doesn't justify the BR.
They have a tiny bit more pen than a Marder at 7.7 but without the ATGM, and the Marder is still garbage.

Neither should be at those BRs.

Forgot the stabilizer.
Being the sole vehicle at 7.7 also puts it in an akward spot.

Either you will pull up your 7,3´s (M47, Type 99 and Ho-Ri Production) into 7.7 or you put it alongside the 8.3´s (STB-2, Type 74 and Type 87 SPAA) where his usefulness is very limited outside of scouting and picking off light vehicles.

[Mirage]

Originally posted by Chaoslord 87:

Originally posted by Mirage:

It also has a stabilizer at the very least, and it still doesn't justify the BR.
They have a tiny bit more pen than a Marder at 7.7 but without the ATGM, and the Marder is still garbage.

Neither should be at those BRs.

Forgot the stabilizer.
Being the sole vehicle at 7.7 also puts it in an akward spot.

Either you will pull up your 7,3´s (M47, Type 99 and Ho-Ri Production) into 7.7 or you put it alongside the 8.3´s (STB-2, Type 74 and Type 87 SPAA) where his usefulness is very limited outside of scouting and picking off light vehicles.

And 66mm of pen is just too low, Russian MBTs are 80mm on the side even, you'd struggle with the front of a Panzer IV with that.

[Chaoslord 87]

Originally posted by Mirage:

And 66mm of pen is just too low, Russian MBTs are 80mm on the side even, you'd struggle with the front of a Panzer IV with that.

You have to be very picky with your targets with it.
I´ve spaded it mostly through scouting and snacking the rare light vehicle I came across without getting shredded in return (BMP-2´s).

[Mirage]

Originally posted by Chaoslord 87:

Originally posted by Mirage:

And 66mm of pen is just too low, Russian MBTs are 80mm on the side even, you'd struggle with the front of a Panzer IV with that.

You have to be very picky with your targets with it.
I´ve spaded it mostly through scouting and snacking the rare light vehicle I came across without getting shredded in return (BMP-2´s).

Yeah, but what's the point when I can also just play anything else and not have to be picky?

[Spielführer]

Still the point stands that it is underpowered by a lot

[Spielführer]

Can the Luchs be adjusted so that it reaches the 100km/h forward and backwards?

[SpiralRazor]

Originally posted by Spielführer:

Can the Luchs be adjusted so that it reaches the 100km/h forward and backwards?

I dont think it would make much of a difference..the gun is no good.

[Spielführer]

The Luchs should be super fast and good acceleration and it can't even climb small hills

[BlackWolf9988]

try uptiering it unironically. the 20 mm is trash and legit the best time i had with them is when i was fighting IFVs at 8.3 - 9.3 because you can actually pen stuff from the front.

20 mm is just sad.

[Spielführer]

But why did they ♥♥♥♥ it up so hard? It can't accelerate, if you start moving from a hill you drive backwards... The 20mm is insufficent at that tier. It is plain wrong

[Shyue Chou]

I will bring it out and try it one day.