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Lord Vader May 31, 2024 @ 11:55am
A6-E TRAM BR change
Why tf did they increase the BR of TRAM? When it encounters uptier, it faces pantsirs. What a beautiful match :D Keep up the great arrangements.
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j.yellow28 May 31, 2024 @ 1:32pm 
becouse it was one of the untouchible planes before that can sit in space and drop GBU with only real counter is another plane.
Lord Vader May 31, 2024 @ 2:20pm 
But it can be ignored. It didn't used to affect the balance significantly. Especially when you consider that there are vehicles on the other side, like 2S38s, that can survive 1000lbs GBU.
j.yellow28 May 31, 2024 @ 2:35pm 
Originally posted by Lord Vader:
But it can be ignored. It didn't used to affect the balance significantly. Especially when you consider that there are vehicles on the other side, like 2S38s, that can survive 1000lbs GBU.
yea but it was very strong premium to use imo, id like any decently fast plane that can use GBU to go up so atleast some SPAA can kill it.
Alot of GBU planes beside like A10 can side clime to space where no SPAA can aim and radar wont see which happens alot, but i rather them just nerf the panstier ffs
Mirage May 31, 2024 @ 2:36pm 
Originally posted by Lord Vader:
But it can be ignored. It didn't used to affect the balance significantly. Especially when you consider that there are vehicles on the other side, like 2S38s, that can survive 1000lbs GBU.

How can it be ignored when it's bombing you from outside SPAA range?
Lord Vader May 31, 2024 @ 2:49pm 
Originally posted by Mirage:
Originally posted by Lord Vader:
But it can be ignored. It didn't used to affect the balance significantly. Especially when you consider that there are vehicles on the other side, like 2S38s, that can survive 1000lbs GBU.

How can it be ignored when it's bombing you from outside SPAA range?

Yeah, you're right, it can't be ignored since it's an USA vehicle, However, they don't hesitate to ignore many fckin things in Russian side
xCrossFaith May 31, 2024 @ 3:10pm 
Let me guess:

You would have welcome the change if this plane was on any other tree
Lord Vader May 31, 2024 @ 3:11pm 
Originally posted by j.yellow28:
Originally posted by Lord Vader:
But it can be ignored. It didn't used to affect the balance significantly. Especially when you consider that there are vehicles on the other side, like 2S38s, that can survive 1000lbs GBU.
yea but it was very strong premium to use imo, id like any decently fast plane that can use GBU to go up so atleast some SPAA can kill it.
Alot of GBU planes beside like A10 can side clime to space where no SPAA can aim and radar wont see which happens alot, but i rather them just nerf the panstier ffs

I agree, A6 was a quite strong premium, It really had to be balanced. personally my k/d ratio is 2.3 with it. However increasing it's BR is not an appropriate solution. Nerfing it could be the best.

I used to play it alongside M1 abrams. Now 10.3 - 10.7 lineup will not be good because I will face toptier. A6 vs Pantsir encounter cannot be enjoyable.
Lord Vader May 31, 2024 @ 3:16pm 
Originally posted by xCrossFaith:
Let me guess:

You would have welcome the change if this plane was on any other tree

Why should I tire myself out for players playing other trees? Naturally, I am complaining about something that concerns me.

But I would welcome if it was nerfed instead of a BR change because I was aware that it was an OP vehicle.
xCrossFaith May 31, 2024 @ 3:19pm 
Originally posted by Lord Vader:
Originally posted by xCrossFaith:
Let me guess:

You would have welcome the change if this plane was on any other tree

Why should I tire myself out for players playing other trees? Naturally, I am complaining about something that concerns me.

But I would welcome if it was nerfed instead of a BR change because I was aware that it was an OP vehicle.
Increasing br is a form of nerf tho
Lord Vader May 31, 2024 @ 3:32pm 
Originally posted by xCrossFaith:
Originally posted by Lord Vader:

Why should I tire myself out for players playing other trees? Naturally, I am complaining about something that concerns me.

But I would welcome if it was nerfed instead of a BR change because I was aware that it was an OP vehicle.
Increasing br is a form of nerf tho

Yes, but this is ruining the game experience rather than balancing the game.
flat_Lander1 May 31, 2024 @ 4:13pm 
i wonder why:lunar2020thinkingtiger:(no)
SpiralRazor May 31, 2024 @ 5:13pm 
Originally posted by Lord Vader:
Why tf did they increase the BR of TRAM? When it encounters uptier, it faces pantsirs. What a beautiful match :D Keep up the great arrangements.


Im sad you cant just bomb multiple targets while facing cannon based AA only.
j.yellow28 May 31, 2024 @ 5:39pm 
Originally posted by Lord Vader:
Originally posted by xCrossFaith:
Increasing br is a form of nerf tho

Yes, but this is ruining the game experience rather than balancing the game.
the only experience that is ruining is the fact it can now see top tier SPAA where most still cant kill it other then the panstier. Its hard becouse no other nation gets SPAA like rusissa top tier becouse what NATO contries made arnt really things warthunder can add. Alot of it is stationarry or towed systems none self contained vehichles.
JuX May 31, 2024 @ 11:31pm 
Don't forget about the A-10. Good luck spawning it in and not dying immediately. And the best part is getting the 10/10.3 tanks against a 11.7 tanks. Another good example of Gaijin balancing their vehicles based out of singular vehicle statistic and not theorycrafting and playtesting their new ratings.

The 11.7 lineup has to be moved to 12 in order to fix it, since they are unlikely to be lowered.

Originally posted by j.yellow28:
becouse it was one of the untouchible planes before that can sit in space and drop GBU with only real counter is another plane.

But what about the untouchable helicopters? They are way worse then A-10 or intruder.
Last edited by JuX; May 31, 2024 @ 11:31pm
Lord Vader Jun 1, 2024 @ 12:35am 
Originally posted by SpiralRazor:
Originally posted by Lord Vader:
Why tf did they increase the BR of TRAM? When it encounters uptier, it faces pantsirs. What a beautiful match :D Keep up the great arrangements.


Im sad you cant just bomb multiple targets while facing cannon based AA only.

Cannon based only? What about 2S6? It’s BR is 10.7. In half of the matches A6 was facing them, however now it will face pantsirs when uptiered
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