M51 at BR 6.0 gets 3 respawns, a reserve vehicle. Why?

[Serano E'Stabant]

Why does the Israeli nation get a reserve vehicle with 3 respawns at BR 6.0?

I just argued about this with a friend of mine, he said that "when you begin playing the nation you have only 1 tank, so that is why you have 3 respawns."

OK, I agree with that statement

But after the 2nd tank has been researched, the M51 respawns should be reduced to 2 respawns, and after a 3rd tank from the same nation has been researched, the M51 should stop being a 'reserve' vehicle and get a normal single spawn.

[42 | El Weiß Tigre]

all reserve vehicles declared are always gonna have multiple respawns.

[Canadian Guitar]

Originally posted by Serano E'Stabant:

Why does the Israeli nation get a reserve vehicle with 3 respawns at BR 6.0?

I just argued about this with a friend of mine, he said that "when you begin playing the nation you have only 1 tank, so that is why you have 3 respawns."

OK, I agree with that statement

But after the 2nd tank has been researched, the M51 respawns should be reduced to 2 respawns, and after a 3rd tank from the same nation has been researched, the M51 should stop being a 'reserve' vehicle and get a normal single spawn.

Why? Researching more tanks doesn't change it from being a "reserve" vehicle

[Toblm]

The M51 is not only a reserve vehicle for Israel, its the only reserve vehicle for Israel. All other nations have at least 2 reserve vehicles, most more.

[Zacharius Sneed]

you should look at your question and then the answer will be automatic

[Serano E'Stabant]

Originally posted by Toblm:

The M51 is not only a reserve vehicle for Israel, its the only reserve vehicle for Israel. All other nations have at least 2 reserve vehicles, most more.

yes but at BR 1.0.

My concern is that it is at BR 6.0 in this case.

[Toblm]

Originally posted by Serano E'Stabant:

Originally posted by Toblm:

The M51 is not only a reserve vehicle for Israel, its the only reserve vehicle for Israel. All other nations have at least 2 reserve vehicles, most more.

yes but at BR 1.0.

My concern is that it is at BR 6.0 in this case.

And? Its a reserve vehicle, they serve the same purpose no matter the BR they are at.

[ErickaUnlimited]

Originally posted by Serano E'Stabant:

Originally posted by Toblm:

The M51 is not only a reserve vehicle for Israel, its the only reserve vehicle for Israel. All other nations have at least 2 reserve vehicles, most more.

yes but at BR 1.0.

My concern is that it is at BR 6.0 in this case.

Still the same rule set. Israel doesn't have enough tanks to fill lower lineups, so it starts at 6.0. That's their reserve tank, so it gets the normal x3 respawns.

[Canadian Guitar]

Originally posted by Serano E'Stabant:

Originally posted by Toblm:

The M51 is not only a reserve vehicle for Israel, its the only reserve vehicle for Israel. All other nations have at least 2 reserve vehicles, most more.

yes but at BR 1.0.

My concern is that it is at BR 6.0 in this case.

And?

[DoomsdayDuck555]

Is it still needed to research rank IV in NATO or can you just play it like its reserve?

[Toblm]

Originally posted by DoomsdayDuck555:

Is it still needed to research rank IV in NATO or can you just play it like its reserve?

My understanding is you need a rank IV, period, to start into Israel.

[Spurdo]

Originally posted by Serano E'Stabant:

Why does the Israeli nation get a reserve vehicle with 3 respawns at BR 6.0?

I just argued about this with a friend of mine, he said that "when you begin playing the nation you have only 1 tank, so that is why you have 3 respawns."

OK, I agree with that statement

But after the 2nd tank has been researched, the M51 respawns should be reduced to 2 respawns, and after a 3rd tank from the same nation has been researched, the M51 should stop being a 'reserve' vehicle and get a normal single spawn.

Because Israeli starter players would quit arcade matches after 1 death, kinda cripples the whole team, don't ya think? Besides it's a glass cannon at that BR of 6.0

[Serano E'Stabant]

My idea is that after the player has researched 1 more vehicle, other than the M51, he should not be able to spawn 3 times with it, but just 2.

And once the player has researched a 3rd vehicle from the tech tree, the M51 should be spawnable only once, just like any other tank at BR 6.0 from any other nation can only be spawned once.

@Spurdo, I am talking primarily about RB.

Originally posted by Mirage:

Should just give all tanks or all premium tanks 3 spawns and stop pretending the tech tree matters as everyone just spawns premiums anyways, at least we'll be able to actually have a game with more than one death leavers.

That is very interesting. Another idea:(offtopic)


I hope Gaijin adds more game modes (types) as a whole. We could use a game mode that allows players to spawn indefinitely, taking tickets per every vehicle spawn, until one team runs out of tickets. Capping objective might be used to reward one team with additional tickets. Also more capzones and more variations. Bigger maps with progressive spawns(team which captures and progresses gets forward spawn while the losing team moves to a rear spawn. This will give the losing team chance to come back in the fight instead of getting spawn-gang-killed.

For example both teams start with 500 tickets each, a heavy tank takes 10 tickets, a medium 5, a lite tank or triple A takes 3. Also randomly select few players of each team who can spawn as air or rotary craft at the beginning of the match (air craft can deduct from a separate pool of tickets, for example 150 air tickets per team).

We have been playing the same game modes since 2013.
/Sorry for drifting away from orig topic.

[Kay]

Originally posted by Serano E'Stabant:

My idea is that after the player has researched 1 more vehicle, other than the M51, he should not be able to spawn 3 times with it, but just 2.

And once the player has researched a 3rd vehicle from the tech tree, the M51 should be spawnable only once, just like any other tank at BR 6.0 from any other nation can only be spawned once.

and unlike any other nations reserve vehicles, which can be spawned 3 times, along with Israel not having enough at 6.0 to make a lineup therefore crippling their ability to play at that BR if they research any vehicles in that tech tree, for no real reason.

[Ihatetrainyards]

Originally posted by Serano E'Stabant:

Why does the Israeli nation get a reserve vehicle with 3 respawns at BR 6.0?

I just argued about this with a friend of mine, he said that "when you begin playing the nation you have only 1 tank, so that is why you have 3 respawns."

OK, I agree with that statement

But after the 2nd tank has been researched, the M51 respawns should be reduced to 2 respawns, and after a 3rd tank from the same nation has been researched, the M51 should stop being a 'reserve' vehicle and get a normal single spawn.

Please no, all the other 6.X tanks israel gets ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ SUCK omg they are so bad, literally why would you even want this change other than to make this game objectively worse?

[Un-Fortunate Son]

Originally posted by Ihatetrainyards:

Originally posted by Serano E'Stabant:

Why does the Israeli nation get a reserve vehicle with 3 respawns at BR 6.0?

I just argued about this with a friend of mine, he said that "when you begin playing the nation you have only 1 tank, so that is why you have 3 respawns."

OK, I agree with that statement

But after the 2nd tank has been researched, the M51 respawns should be reduced to 2 respawns, and after a 3rd tank from the same nation has been researched, the M51 should stop being a 'reserve' vehicle and get a normal single spawn.

Please no, all the other 6.X tanks israel gets ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ SUCK omg they are so bad, literally why would you even want this change other than to make this game objectively worse?

yeah, israel starting out is rough, not like the m-51 is very good outside of big gun