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Cartoon_JR. 15 авг. 2018 г. в 4:08
APCBC HE filler
I have noticed that there are two types of APCBC in the game, with HE filler and without HE filler.

I find it incorrect and the one with HE filler is supposed to be called APHEBC not APCBC. Right?
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Автор сообщения: Katokevin:
No. APCBC means its an AP shell with both a soft cap and ballistic cap. APHEBC is an AP shell lacking a soft cap, containing an explosive filler, but has a ballistic cap. The Soviets were just about the only ones that did not soft cap their AP shells durring the war (they only started doing so with 100mm rounds).

APCBC does not denote filler and WT does not make any mention of it besides the picture and stat card. APCBC with a filler really should be APCBC-HE-T (or APCBC-T-HE). APHEBC would already denote the filler but could still be different such as APBC-HE-T (or APBC-T-HE).

APCBC also comes without explosive filler (as mentioned above) in shells like the British 17 pounder Shot Mk.8 or French SA47 100mm Obus de rupture.
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RetroRun (Заблокирован) 15 авг. 2018 г. в 4:21 
yup
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Leinad 15 авг. 2018 г. в 4:42 
Wouldn´t it be called APHECBC?
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Rumpelcrutchskin 15 авг. 2018 г. в 4:52 
It depends on the country, British and French dont use HE filler, Germany and Russia do and US uses both.
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RetroRun (Заблокирован) 15 авг. 2018 г. в 4:55 
Автор сообщения: Ingwerdieb
Wouldn´t it be called APHECBC?
Its called APHEBC its a bit different than APCBC dosent have that much of slope modifier
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Leinad 15 авг. 2018 г. в 4:56 
Автор сообщения: Spacekiller
Автор сообщения: Ingwerdieb
Wouldn´t it be called APHECBC?
Its called APHEBC its a bit different than APCBC dosent have that much of slope modifier
Oh okay.
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Cartoon_JR. 15 авг. 2018 г. в 5:00 
So why do they have the same name?
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RetroRun (Заблокирован) 15 авг. 2018 г. в 5:03 
Автор сообщения: Cartoon_JR.
So why do they have the same name?
They dont
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Cartoon_JR. 15 авг. 2018 г. в 5:06 
Автор сообщения: Spacekiller
Автор сообщения: Cartoon_JR.
So why do they have the same name?
They dont
They do! Go to the american tech tree and go to the shermans.
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RetroRun (Заблокирован) 15 авг. 2018 г. в 5:09 
Автор сообщения: Cartoon_JR.
Автор сообщения: Spacekiller
They dont
They do! Go to the american tech tree and go to the shermans.
M61 is a APCBC round not a APHEBC and it is clearly stated!
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RetroRun (Заблокирован) 15 авг. 2018 г. в 5:11 
They both contain explosive filler, if thats what you are asking, ABCBC round tends to have less explosive mass than APHEBC, hence the designation HE
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Cartoon_JR. 15 авг. 2018 г. в 5:11 
Автор сообщения: Spacekiller
Автор сообщения: Cartoon_JR.
They do! Go to the american tech tree and go to the shermans.
M61 is a APCBC round not a APHEBC and it is clearly stated!
but... it has HE filler... that is the main idea of this thread...
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RetroRun (Заблокирован) 15 авг. 2018 г. в 5:20 
Автор сообщения: Cartoon_JR.
Автор сообщения: Spacekiller
M61 is a APCBC round not a APHEBC and it is clearly stated!
but... it has HE filler... that is the main idea of this thread...
Read the above post, both have explosive filler, APCBC has less APHEBC has more hence the HE designation, there are non explosive filler APCBC rounds all the Brits and French tanks use it as well as the US too
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Cartoon_JR. 15 авг. 2018 г. в 5:33 
ohhhhh now I understand. thanks to all of you!
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Katokevin 15 авг. 2018 г. в 7:12 
No. APCBC means its an AP shell with both a soft cap and ballistic cap. APHEBC is an AP shell lacking a soft cap, containing an explosive filler, but has a ballistic cap. The Soviets were just about the only ones that did not soft cap their AP shells durring the war (they only started doing so with 100mm rounds).

APCBC does not denote filler and WT does not make any mention of it besides the picture and stat card. APCBC with a filler really should be APCBC-HE-T (or APCBC-T-HE). APHEBC would already denote the filler but could still be different such as APBC-HE-T (or APBC-T-HE).

APCBC also comes without explosive filler (as mentioned above) in shells like the British 17 pounder Shot Mk.8 or French SA47 100mm Obus de rupture.
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Blamite Delight 15 авг. 2018 г. в 8:54 
Автор сообщения: Katokevin
No. APCBC means its an AP shell with both a soft cap and ballistic cap. APHEBC is an AP shell lacking a soft cap, containing an explosive filler, but has a ballistic cap. The Soviets were just about the only ones that did not soft cap their AP shells durring the war (they only started doing so with 100mm rounds).

APCBC does not denote filler and WT does not make any mention of it besides the picture and stat card. APCBC with a filler really should be APCBC-HE-T (or APCBC-T-HE). APHEBC would already denote the filler but could still be different such as APBC-HE-T (or APBC-T-HE).

APCBC also comes without explosive filler (as mentioned above) in shells like the British 17 pounder Shot Mk.8 or French SA47 100mm Obus de rupture.
I still find the name kinda silly "obus de rupture" yeah you got that right french naming system, it sure does rupture XD
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