Warhammer: End Times - Vermintide

Warhammer: End Times - Vermintide

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Is this the same universe at Warhammer 40K?
I'm somewhat confused by the title of the game, but essentially: does this game take place in the same universe as Warhammer 40K or is it a completely unrelated game?
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Jarmo Oct 16, 2015 @ 3:20pm 
This is Warhammer fantasy, which is entirely separate from 40k.
Boozebeard Oct 16, 2015 @ 8:40pm 
Entirely seperate in terms of universe and lore but it was created by the same company (games workshop) and was also originally a tabletop miniatures game. I believe the fantasy Warhammer was infact the original of the two.
plonker Oct 16, 2015 @ 9:42pm 
Originally posted by Boozebeard:
Entirely seperate in terms of universe and lore but it was created by the same company (games workshop) and was also originally a tabletop miniatures game. I believe the fantasy Warhammer was infact the original of the two.

It is.
Basically WH40K was Warhammer fantasy.... BUT IN SPACE.
But don't worry, games workshop killed the title and created Age of Smegmar.
Rodso Oct 17, 2015 @ 7:39pm 
once upon a time there was a therory that the warhammer fansty planet was in the 40k universe but was surrounded by warp storms or something. but that has long since been dropped
darth.crevette Oct 18, 2015 @ 7:05am 
Originally posted by Rodso:
once upon a time there was a therory that the warhammer fansty planet was in the 40k universe but was surrounded by warp storms or something. but that has long since been dropped
It was more than just a theory when chaos champions had access to plasma pistols and chainswords. Yup, in Warhammer Fantasy. And later on, some lizardmen stone tablets made a direct connection between the two universes, but this has since been retconned to oblivion.
Last edited by darth.crevette; Oct 18, 2015 @ 7:05am
Gungar Oct 18, 2015 @ 10:23am 
Warhammer used to be in the same universe as 40k but they scrapped that idea long ago.
Faux Nugget Oct 18, 2015 @ 12:10pm 
Originally posted by Gungar:
Warhammer used to be in the same universe as 40k but they scrapped that idea long ago.

Still considered canon in the Liber Chaotica, a chaos cultist in Warhammer fantasy dreams of the future and sees chaos forces in 40k.
darth.crevette Oct 19, 2015 @ 3:33am 
There's also that knight in silver armour that appears during the End Times, rumoured to be Kaldor "Mary Sue" Draigo himself... but that's more of a nod, if anything.
Rodso Oct 19, 2015 @ 4:03am 
speaking of end times didnt karl franz become something simlar to a space marine?
darth.crevette Oct 19, 2015 @ 5:00am 
Hmm not really? I know he became the host for the Wind of Heaven, but as to what happened to him after that, I have no idea. But if by "space marine" you mean a Stormcast Eternal, he may have become one, but they're more daemons than Space Marines, really (or Einherjars).
Webzy Oct 19, 2015 @ 5:29pm 
Originally posted by Manthrottle Beefdeath:
Basically WH40K was Warhammer fantasy.... BUT IN SPACE.
But don't worry, games workshop killed the title and created Age of Smegmar.

Also know as
New Warhammer, Nuhammer, Sigmar and Friends, Warhammer Light, "♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥", Skub: The Wargame, Age of Smegmar, Sigmar's Big Day Out, Age of Skubmar, Skubhammer 40k: Age of houserules ,Warhammer: New Coke.
Provoked Tree Oct 20, 2015 @ 6:21am 
When they first made 40k, they decided to be cute and say how Warhamer Fantasy exists in 40k on another planet, but that was a long, long time ago. Nowadays, the games have no in-universe connection. Even the Orcs and Orks are actually different things. After they made 40k, when they made a new edition of Warhammer Fantasy, they added some 40k weapons as magic artifacts for chaos, saying how they were gifts from demons and what not, but again, they don't exist anymore.
They do share some similarities, like the Old Ones are in both, and both universes have the same Chaos.
In the End Times book, when a character goes into Nurgles realm, he sees someone that is heavily hinted to be a 40k character (A Knight in silver armour who speaks a strange language), so it is likely that Chaos is the same along all dimensions. In another End Times book, the Skaven accidentally activate some Lizardman interstellar communication device and hear "elf like being" and get scared. Other than those little references, there is no connection.
Deadagainstzombies Oct 20, 2015 @ 12:21pm 
Basicaly its all stolen from lord of the rings any way.

P:S games work shop has a LOR game out lol
Markolh Oct 20, 2015 @ 12:43pm 
Originally posted by Dead Against Zombies:
Basicaly its all stolen from lord of the rings any way.

P:S games work shop has a LOR game out lol
now what make you say that?
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