Making our own skeletons.

[Baby Shark]

wonder if we can ever make our own primitive skeleton variants? i doubt it and they would probly be not as intelligent as normal skeletons. but good enough to do a simple task. if we can figure out how to make skeletal limbs move and such then why not? attaching the limbs to a metal torso is probly easier than making them work with an organic body. probly not too outlandish to be able to create a primitive AI from studying the ai cores already in the game too. should be one of the most expensive and hardest research projects out there if it ever exists.

just a thought probly wont happen but it would be cool.

[Hatsune Neko Gaming]

been suggested several times
and unlikely due to limitations of the game.

[rat bastard]

Originally posted by HaTsUnE_NeKo:

been suggested several times
and unlikely due to limitations of the game.

I wonder why, just make a new work bench and the character creator appear when the crafting is done, then the character creation window appears and once done editing it the skeleton spawns naked with 0 on everything and there you go.

At least that's a cheap way to do it.

[Valky]

When ppl say "it's simple as that" but never actually tried to read a program or do one even in good old basic, nothing is simple in programing, everything you add/remove bring another problem(or a LOT of problems), be it conflics, the engine being unable to do what you ask him to do or just rendering everything unstable or broken.

[rat bastard]

Originally posted by Valky:

When ppl say "it's simple as that" but never actually tried to read a program or do one even in good old basic, nothing is simple in programing, everything you add/remove bring another problem(or a LOT of problems), be it conflics, the engine being unable to do what you ask him to do or just rendering everything unstable or broken.

Well, i don't see how there would be any issue, i'm a complete noob when it comes to programming and i know it's kinda hard, but this just seems simple to me for some reason.

[magmoose]

Originally posted by Ray Vest Artist:

Originally posted by Valky:

When ppl say "it's simple as that" but never actually tried to read a program or do one even in good old basic, nothing is simple in programing, everything you add/remove bring another problem(or a LOT of problems), be it conflics, the engine being unable to do what you ask him to do or just rendering everything unstable or broken.

Well, i don't see how there would be any issue, i'm a complete noob when it comes to programming and i know it's kinda hard, but this just seems simple to me for some reason.

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[magmoose]

thats for 1 type of weather coded into kenshi xD

(there are 87 other scripts in the same file as this xD and this isnt even the worst one haha)

[Hatsune Neko Gaming]

If it was that simple it would be in game ( if the Dev wanted it ) but so far we can't spawn NPCs to hire on command. nor can we place them in a single spot.
Sounds simple, but in reality it's not. and to my knowledge, parts of the system are in game yes, but they don't work like you want them to. it doesn't have that functionality. so would have to be programed in then compiled and tested to make sure it doesn't mess with any other systems thats in game.

but over all, if the Dev wants to let us to be able to build skeletons in game, he will give us the ability. until then. we wait to see what the Dev does since this request has been around since skelton's first came to the game.

[Aurelia]

It would require adding some functionality to the engine itself, as there's currently no function of spawning units through this sort of behavior, but it wouldn't be undoable. That aside though, this wouldn't be a thing, as skeletons and their operation are meant to be a mysterious and lost technology from an ancient culture.

Not only would you being able to create skeletons detract from that feeling of awe, but there's no surviving knowledge about how all those skeleton parts actually work individually, or as a whole.

You may have all the parts to build a robot though, but you'd still need to program it, and make sure all the parts get put together the right way with the -correct- materials. I imagine if people from the kenshi world were trying to build a copy of a common day motherboard, they'd cut a bunch of little squares of copper, stick iron legs on them, stab those legs through a sheet of iron, then drip random lines of melted iron all over the board in fancy patterns with the idea that maybe it'll trigger some sort of magic and just simply work..

There is no one in kenshi that could build a robot, let alone a skeleton. That level of understanding of these things just doesn't exist anymore.

[rat bastard]

Originally posted by Ma9nUs Gaming:

Originally posted by Ray Vest Artist:

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Alright i get it, i'll shut up.

[Erei]

Lorewise, skeleton are not made anymore. They are a dying race.

[🇰🇵Burner🇰🇵]

I think it would be entirely possible in the world of kenshi, I would not consider skeleton tech to be entirely 'lost', more along the lines of partially forgotten.

The key to making more skeletons would be.. Skeletons.
Now of course, they have lost a great deal of knowledge themselves over the years. But still have enough data to repair themselves and others, plus build or at least move and install skeleton repair beds & craft electronics.

I see no reason why the skeletons would not be able to reactivate an old world skeleton, one that has not run out of memory due to not being active.
This said skeleton would possess a great deal of knowledge and would be more than capable of assembling more skeletons.

It may also be entirely possible to circumvent this entirely, by finding an AI core/skeleton brain and plugging it into a defunct chassi. One would assume that skeletons are at least capable of replacing parts, otherwise I doubt they would have lasted as long as they have.

Certainly good food for thought here, considering adding a subrace to skeletons now called the assembled or something similar.


Additionally, with the impending update there are rumblings of hiver made robotic limbs. If the hivers can make limbs, I don't see why a group of skeletons could not make more skeletons.

[rat bastard]

Originally posted by EVEREADY SALSA:

I think it would be entirely possible in the world of kenshi, I would not consider skeleton tech to be entirely 'lost', more along the lines of partially forgotten.

The key to making more skeletons would be.. Skeletons.
Now of course, they have lost a great deal of knowledge themselves over the years. But still have enough data to repair themselves and others, plus build or at least move and install skeleton repair beds & craft electronics.

I see no reason why the skeletons would not be able to reactivate an old world skeleton, one that has not run out of memory due to not being active.
This said skeleton would possess a great deal of knowledge and would be more than capable of assembling more skeletons.

It may also be entirely possible to circumvent this entirely, by finding an AI core/skeleton brain and plugging it into a defunct chassi. One would assume that skeletons are at least capable of replacing parts, otherwise I doubt they would have lasted as long as they have.

Certainly good food for thought here, considering adding a subrace to skeletons now called the assembled or something similar.


Additionally, with the impending update there are rumblings of hiver made robotic limbs. If the hivers can make limbs, I don't see why a group of skeletons could not make more skeletons.

Most of the skeletons regret what they did, they feel guilty and probably depressed, why would they make more of their own? i'm pretty sure they could since skeletons made skeletons originally, but why would they after all they had done.

[Shidan]

As Ray said, the Skeletons have a deep regret and sadness over past events that happened in the world. So much that a large number of them committed suicide shortly after those events, and most of the rest of them have retreated from the world to sulk in peace.

But even if there were some interested, I don't personally believe it would be possible. As it's highly likely they simply do not know how. Skeletons were made in a massive automatic factory, which has since been reduced to rubble and buried under both stone and water. It's highly unlikely the knowledge to make them survived these thousands of years, if you could even get to it.

That said, from a lore perspective, making the robot spiders is plausible. There is a confirmed manufacturer of them in the game. And they are also the ones that would be plausible from a mechanics standpoint, depending on if the devs finish a certain feature they were working on.

[rat bastard]

Imagine a mechanic spider with a double multi-barreled turret on it's back, man that would be sick lol.

[Tarsis]

Imagine one that didn't walk so loud.