British Units vs Axis Units: Comparison Videos (1vs1 and more)

[⭕ProntoSalvatore]

Hi,

look at this Videos an say again that the balance is okay....

1.
Centaur vs Ostwind 1vs1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HD6-aXZ4_do

Centaur vs Ostwind against Infantry:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvRVHcvWXx4

Centaur vs Panzer 4:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJZOThKTH58

2.
Cromwell vs Infantry:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16BA7cbUZiE

Cromwell vs Panzer 4:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qur6-s6YzJc
(The first shot dont pentrate. Only because of this fact the Cromwell loose.

3.
AEC vs Puma:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EYtDBwYOWE

And dont forget how effective the AEC aginst infatery is.... A true sniper.

4.
Comet vs Panther:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0kGE17crkw

5.
Tommies vs Grenadiers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqbHmv5-gZ8

[⭕ProntoSalvatore]

Whats else is op:

You can give the British Infantry 2 Brens. Grenadiers have no chance.
The flame upgrade for universal carrier costs only 90 amuniton and can build in the very early game.

This sucks so hard =(

[Patrykblack7]

LOL
Centaur wins beacouse it has better armor than Ostwind since its Cruiser tank?
And if you compare Ostwind vs T34/76 Ostwind nearly win
Cromwell vs PZ4 is RNG issue
Sometimes Cromwell sometime PZ4
Puma vs AEC
What is thing their?
Puma wins can snipe infantry and wins with AEC
Comet cost more need special tech
BUT CAN BEAT PANTHER OMG
And best
YOU PUT TOMMIES WITH COVER BONUS VS GRENS AND EXCPECT GRENS TO WIN

[Hungry Hungry Cho'Gath]

Първоначално публикувано от ☭Patrykblack7☭:

LOL
Centaur wins beacouse it has better armor than Ostwind since its Cruiser tank?
And if you compare Ostwind vs T34/76 Ostwind nearly win
Cromwell vs PZ4 is RNG issue
Sometimes Cromwell sometime PZ4
Puma vs AEC
What is thing their?
Puma wins can snipe infantry and wins with AEC
Comet cost more need special tech
BUT CAN BEAT PANTHER OMG
And best
YOU PUT TOMMIES WITH COVER BONUS VS GRENS AND EXCPECT GRENS TO WIN

Cromwell cost less to tech and build compared to panzer iv.
Puma cost more to tech and more to build than aec and nearly loses not to mention that aec is good vs infantery and puma isn't.
Ostwind cost more to tech than centaur, so why do it have to be worse.
Panther need tech too and cost 380 to build (tech+build) comet cost 380 and comet is better at infantery and wins 1 on 1. By this calculation Ostheer has no standard infantery, pak or panzer iv while Uk can build almost everything.

[Patrykblack7]

Първоначално публикувано от Hungry Hungry Cho'Gath:

Първоначално публикувано от ☭Patrykblack7☭:

LOL
Centaur wins beacouse it has better armor than Ostwind since its Cruiser tank?
And if you compare Ostwind vs T34/76 Ostwind nearly win
Cromwell vs PZ4 is RNG issue
Sometimes Cromwell sometime PZ4
Puma vs AEC
What is thing their?
Puma wins can snipe infantry and wins with AEC
Comet cost more need special tech
BUT CAN BEAT PANTHER OMG
And best
YOU PUT TOMMIES WITH COVER BONUS VS GRENS AND EXCPECT GRENS TO WIN

Cromwell cost less to tech and build compared to panzer iv.
Puma cost more to tech and more to build than aec and nearly loses not to mention that aec is good vs infantery and puma isn't.
Ostwind cost more to tech than centaur, so why do it have to be worse.
Panther need tech too and cost 380 to build (tech+build) comet cost 380 and comet is better at infantery and wins 1 on 1. By this calculation Ostheer has no standard infantery, pak or panzer iv while Uk can build almost everything.

About Cromwell its all about RNG
AEC cost 65 with teching up and get rekt by sec by volks
And Puma is good vs infantry lol
Ostwind cost more to tech
It cames in same time when Centaur
And you got cheapest AT tank Stug
Also Comet is a par to Panther
And Ostheer underpowored?
You drunk right?
There isnt something like infantry 1 vs 1
British got cover bonus but Ostheer got riffle nade AND panzerfaust to deal with tanks when British need to pay fuel for everything

[Hungry Hungry Cho'Gath]

This was about puma vs aec so i don't know why you now include volks. Puma cost 50 to tech Aec 45 (30+15=65 realy). Puma good vs infantry realy it never hits and gets damaged by small arms. And ostheer is weaker than uk in all game modes http://coh2chart.com/.
And you don't have to insult me, by calling me drunk only because you have no good arguments.

[Patrykblack7]

Първоначално публикувано от Hungry Hungry Cho'Gath:

This was about puma vs aec so i don't know why you now include volks. Puma cost 50 to tech Aec 45 (30+15=65 realy). Puma good vs infantry realy it never hits and gets damaged by small arms. And ostheer is weaker than uk in all game modes http://coh2chart.com/.
And you don't have to insult me, by calling me drunk only because you have no good arguments.

"Ostheer weaker than UK"
XAAXAXAXAX
Srsly?
How its weak?
British dont have mobile artillery,things vs garrison units in early game
Their mid game is only appearing as AEC
Infantry dies like flies and need boster (pay fuel ) to survive late game

[Hungry Hungry Cho'Gath]

I gave you the link why don't you use it. It stands there black on white simply the facts no subjective opinion.

[⭕ProntoSalvatore]

Whats about the Sexton? This is a mobile artillery. And a very good an cheap one!
Mid game AEC?! The Centaur and Cromwell rapes germans ass!
Infantry dies like flies?! I only see grenadiers dying when 3-4 Infantry Section coming with Brens.

Think about it.

[Patrykblack7]

Първоначално публикувано от Hesky85:

Whats about the Sexton? This is a mobile artillery. And a very good an cheap one!
Mid game AEC?! The Centaur and Cromwell rapes germans ass!
Infantry dies like flies?! I only see grenadiers dying when 3-4 Infantry Section coming with Brens.

Think about it.

SEXTON
GOOD
ARTILLERY
I LAUGH SO HARD
Centaur and cromwell
Centaur will get wreck by schreck blob
Cromwell is good medium tank
Cant they have it?
Yes infantry dies like flies to mortars,artillery,grenades Also you got MG42 without spending 15 fuel and 100 mp

[Julius]

Първоначално публикувано от Hesky85:

Whats about the Sexton? This is a mobile artillery. And a very good an cheap one!
Mid game AEC?! The Centaur and Cromwell rapes germans ass!
Infantry dies like flies?! I only see grenadiers dying when 3-4 Infantry Section coming with Brens.

Think about it.

the damage and explosion radius is pathetic,the soviet 120mm mortar is better!hell,i think the infantry support gun or pack howizer are better!like the base howizers,they are just there to scare your enemy off a little.the frickin mortar halftrack destroys pretty much everything the brits can field early on.

[[✰Coco✰] Kanade Yoisaki]

This honestly should fall under L2P since it's easy to counter British armor.

[Chaos_Umbra]

The only point you might have got right is that the penetration on the Centaur is too high, but RELIC in their infinate wisdom decided to ignore this and instead halve the damage when it only needed a slight reduction, centaur loses to 2 volks at mid range and is as slow as a king tiger so it isn't going to escape.

All the other senarios are completely incorrect for the units involved, except the P4 vs Cromwell one. Puma's have better range and speed than an AEC so use it, you would never sit Grens that close to IS behind green cover as both units are good at long range plus the IS are upgraded, so it isn't a fair comparison and anyone with grens in that situation would have used a rifle grenade and won. As for the Comet vs Panther that was just plain bad RNG They have the same health, similar penetration, Panther has better armour, Comet has better speed and is better against infantry but costs more, so what are you complaining about?

[RedT3rror]

Първоначално публикувано от Chaos_Umbra:

As for the Comet vs Panther that was just plain bad RNG They have the same health, similar penetration, Panther has better armour, Comet has better speed and is better against infantry but costs more, so what are you complaining about?

Actually I would hardly call a Penetration difference of 50 points "smiliar". The Comet's speed vaulue is 6.9 vs. the Panther's 6.6 so there´s hardly a difference unless the Comet becomes vet3. The Panther however has slightly superior acceleration/decceleration (2.2 vs. 2.4, 4 vs 4.5) .

[RedT3rror]

Първоначално публикувано от Julius:

the damage and explosion radius is pathetic,the soviet 120mm mortar is better!hell,i think the infantry support gun or pack howizer are better!like the base howizers,they are just there to scare your enemy off a little.the frickin mortar halftrack destroys pretty much everything the brits can field early on.

Here's a funny fact:

A single rocket of a Katyusha has exactly the same lethality (AoE dmg) as a Sexton/25pounder round. The only difference is the 80 dmg vs 160 in near which is unimportant when talking about killing infantry (unless it's an Ostheer sniper).

[Julius]

Първоначално публикувано от SoE-RedT3rror-:

Първоначално публикувано от Julius:

the damage and explosion radius is pathetic,the soviet 120mm mortar is better!hell,i think the infantry support gun or pack howizer are better!like the base howizers,they are just there to scare your enemy off a little.the frickin mortar halftrack destroys pretty much everything the brits can field early on.

Here's a funny fact:

A single rocket of a Katyusha has exactly the same lethality (AoE dmg) as a Sexton/25pounder round. The only difference is the 80 dmg vs 160 in near which is unimportant when talking about killing infantry (unless it's an Ostheer sniper).

once i played as OKW against someone who chose artillaryregiment.the sexton and base howis
did never hit my med HQ,and it was especially cute when he build a valentine,a fricking valentine while i had a panzer 4!