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to micro, what does it mean?
Hi, the question, I assume, is very banal: what does "to micro" means?
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Micro is the ability to control your units individually, in order to make up for pathing or otherwise imperfect AI.
Ok, I see. Thanks!
Micro is the ability to use your units well, so they can be more effective. As opposed to macro which means beeing able to manage your base and spend ressources constantly.
Viimeisin muokkaaja on ShodaN; 3.10.2013 klo 6.36
Short for micromanaging.
ShodaN lähetti viestin:
Micro is the ability to use your units well, so they can be more effective. As opposed to macro which means beeing able to manage your base and spend ressources constantly.

That... is the worst definition of Micro managing I ever saw.

Tell me, who was the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ idiot who told you that?
:. Joikax lähetti viestin:
ShodaN lähetti viestin:
Micro is the ability to use your units well, so they can be more effective. As opposed to macro which means beeing able to manage your base and spend ressources constantly.

That... is the worst definition of Micro managing I ever saw.

Tell me, who was the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ idiot who told you that?

Oh please enlighten me, great expert! What is micro then?
Or at least tell me what you think it is... just for laughs you know.
Viimeisin muokkaaja on ShodaN; 4.10.2013 klo 1.02
Now, now gentlemen...

"Micro" is a prefix which means "in miniscule or small scale." In the patio of gamers, it is a slang verb that means "To control single or small groups of units individually by hand instead of issuing blanket commands to the entire available asset."
datguy13 lähetti viestin:
Now, now gentlemen...

"Micro" is a prefix which means "in miniscule or small scale." In the patio of gamers, it is a slang verb that means "To control single or small groups of units individually by hand instead of issuing blanket commands to the entire available asset."

...in order to use them more effectively... Otherwise there would be no reason behind it.
And since when does macro mean "to manage your base and spend ressources constantly" ?
That makes no sense at all. actually that is a characteristic of a micro intensive person rather than a macro.

To be honest, you could have just said that macro is usually what spammers and people that bring their units all together in one assault (and retreat them all at the same time) usually do, not even using their abilities or potencial to the max. Comparing both definitions (which are somewhat poor, both) you should have used this one instead.


:. Joikax lähetti viestin:
And since when does macro mean "to manage your base and spend ressources constantly" ?
That makes no sense at all. actually that is a characteristic of a micro intensive person rather than a macro.

To be honest, you could have just said that macro is usually what spammers and people that bring their units all together in one assault (and retreat them all at the same time) usually do, not even using their abilities or potencial to the max. Comparing both definitions (which are somewhat poor, both) you should have used this one instead.

No. Wrong. In RTS/RTT games macro is exactly what I said it is. RTTs like CoH do not have a lot of macro-tasks, because the focus is on micro-managing your units in engagements, which involves movement, positioning, the use of abilities and so on.

Furthermore you don not realy build a base (no multiple factories, baracks and the like - not much to manage). All that is left is your overall gameplan that could be described as macromangagement.

In RTS games like Starcraft on the other hand you have a lot of macro-management involved, which means to manage your base (build orders, expanding, etc.) and unit production. All aimed at spending your income at a constant rate (idealy 1:1 - what comes in goes out) and at the right time.

Get your facts straight and don´t try to lecture me...
If you like to go in deeper you can also make a difference between economical micromanagement, tactical micromanagement and the like. Feel free you use Wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micromanagement_%28gameplay%29

"There is sometimes confusion regarding the difference between micromanagement and macromanagement, normally abbreviated as 'micro' and 'macro' respectively. Macro generally refers to managing large quantities of tasks at the same time. For example, building units from various structures throughout the game while also building more structures, scouting, creating new bases, etc. This is different from micro, which is generally controlling small amounts of units and giving them very specific orders."
Viimeisin muokkaaja on ShodaN; 4.10.2013 klo 6.08
lol okay, now you've spoiled everything. So what you think is true comes from wikipedia... that explains a lot.

You know any ♥♥♥♥♥♥ can modify what is written on wikipedia to his liking, thus making it one of the worst places to check for facts and explanations? Of course not.

Speaking to another ♥♥♥♥♥♥ here. this CoH2 forum is getting worse by the day I swear
:. Joikax lähetti viestin:
lol okay, now you've spoiled everything. So what you think is true comes from wikipedia... that explains a lot.

You know any ♥♥♥♥♥♥ can modify what is written on wikipedia to his liking, thus making it one of the worst places to check for facts and explanations? Of course not.

Speaking to another ♥♥♥♥♥♥ here. this CoH2 forum is getting worse by the day I swear

Get your tinfoil hats!! QUICK! I bet the CIA did alter that article because of its international influence on the online community!...

If there is a guy that actually took the time to write down an article about something as banal as terms used in a gaming community, then there has to be at least some affiliation to the material.

What is written there is completely correct. Not because it is on Wiki, but because it is correct - yes it is as simple as that. I can´t help that you seem to have no idea about the genre whatsoever. I bet you haven´t played any RTS other games, have you?
I have, even CoH1 although I suppose you would call that an RTT. still wasnt the only strategy game I played, also have Starcraft 2 and used to love it aswell.

But then again, I've seen how bad you are at bringing out facts and reasonable explanations on other posts and discussions so I'm sorry but this conversation is over, it was nice while it lasted.
Joikax is right about Wikipedia being a highly unreliable source of information, for the very reason that he points out. Although that definition sounds good, it is incorrect by virtue of context by applying arbitrary values to broad actions, and not likely to have been written by a qualified Etymologist (scholars who study word origins and definitions). Point of fact, just about every piece of data you find off the internet is skewed or biased in some way, due to the lack of moderation, oversight or some form of fact-checking system. The internet is ruled by opinion and conjecture, and thus statements from it must always be taken with a grain of salt.

By that virtue, Joikax, what you append to my given definition would have undermined the value of that definition. Micromanagement is not always effecient or effective, that would be supposition or opinion on the part of the author. When writing a definition or explaining a subject, you should always stick strictly to factual, supported data. Don't add any descriptives which are supposition or conjecture.

Honestly guys, I don't understand the fuss. You're both right and you're both wrong. Why not find the happy middle and go play a game together or something? :)
:. Joikax lähetti viestin:
I have, even CoH1 although I suppose you would call that an RTT. still wasnt the only strategy game I played, also have Starcraft 2 and used to love it aswell.

But then again, I've seen how bad you are at bringing out facts and reasonable explanations on other posts and discussions so I'm sorry but this conversation is over, it was nice while it lasted.

I bet you just had the same fact-filled discussion about how Blizzard should balance 4vs4 for bronze league players in Starcraft 2... Dude you are so laughable... Talking about "facts" knowing nothing.
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