ability to upgrade T34-76 to T34-85?

[Joikax]

A while ago, while I was taking a shower, this idea came to my mind and sounded reasonable. Germans have the ability to build Late War tanks (Stug and PZ4 with late war models, and Panthers) whilst we ruskies are stuck with those lame T34-76 that are good for nothing except ram AND only then the SU85, but thats not really fair is it?

Well... why not have the ability to upgrade the T34 version through it's building just like the sherman from CoH1 with its better pene canon? I think it would be a great idea BUT... to counter germans moaning its OP i'd say get rid of the ramming ability once you upgrade the t-34. Wouldnt it be good?

Ideas please?

[Joikax]

...maybe even nerf the SU85 a little bit in terms of dmg or range so that combined arms between that and the T34-85 wouldnt be so frustrating to germans?

[Tankoslav Tepyatdesyatpyatovich]

-No, I think not
-Eliphas! You traitor!(c)

[Tankoslav Tepyatdesyatpyatovich]

Y no add Jagdpanther so german players stop crying about nerfing su-85?

[Joikax]

Originally posted by Техно-ересь!:

Y no add Jagdpanther so german players stop crying about nerfing su-85?

NO.. because they already have their Tigers and Elephants that are much better than their russian counterparts AND are easier to get and spam

[Tankoslav Tepyatdesyatpyatovich]

Is-2 is much better than Tigr in real life, so if it was in game too, and germans had jgdp, balance would become great

[Joikax]

yes my friend, thats exactly what I think but we have to cope with what the game is right now... and I dont think relic will ever consider having unitscorrespond to what they were in real life.

[Tankoslav Tepyatdesyatpyatovich]

The thing i dislike is that you can only call two tanks squads, sometimes players may need to call them one-by-one, it's much faster and it costs less fuel and pop.

[Mechles]

the problem with the the ability to upgrade from t34/76 to t34/85 presents two problems:
1. t34/76 is a medium tank, while a t34/85 is heavy tank (maybe but it affects tech.)
2. t34/85 maybe from a t34 design, but a t34/85 uses a bigger chassis than t34/76 and the also the tank turret would also need to be changed in for a turret that can hold a much bigger barrel.

[Tankoslav Tepyatdesyatpyatovich]

Originally posted by aScientologist:

t34/85 is heavy tank (maybe but it affects tech.)

Шта?(wat?)?!

[Mechles]

Originally posted by Техно-ересь!:

Originally posted by aScientologist:

t34/85 is heavy tank (maybe but it affects tech.)

Шта?(wat?)?!

t34/76 is a t3 vehicle/ changing it with to a t34/85 would make the game abit unbalanced dont you think?

[Tankoslav Tepyatdesyatpyatovich]

I am not talking about a balnce, I just misunderstand how could somebody call T-34 a heavy tank. Check out Wikipedia before telling something you don't know or are not sure. In Soviet tank classification Pz. V was a heavy tank, and Pz VI, of course, but T-34 is a medium tank, tank class depends not only on how much is its cannon

[Mechles]

Originally posted by Техно-ересь!:

I am not talking about a balnce, I just misunderstand how could somebody call T-34 a heavy tank. Check out Wikipedia before telling something you don't know or are not sure. In Soviet tank classification Pz. V was a heavy tank, and Pz VI, of course, but T-34 is a medium tank, tank class depends not only on how much is its cannon

Yeah, I sorta meant it also, could be a heavy tank if the panther for germans is, but yes i know it is a medium tank, but if relic made the panther a heavy tank the t34/85 might be but i dont know

[Chest Masterson]

Originally posted by aScientologist:

the problem with the the ability to upgrade from t34/76 to t34/85 presents two problems:
1. t34/76 is a medium tank, while a t34/85 is heavy tank (maybe but it affects tech.)
2. t34/85 maybe from a t34 design, but a t34/85 uses a bigger chassis than t34/76 and the also the tank turret would also need to be changed in for a turret that can hold a much bigger barrel.

It appears you don't know your facts. The t-35/85 was never considered a heavy tank. It was a medium tank. The t-34/85 does not have a bigger chassis. The only thing that is different between the t-34/76 and the t-34/85 is the turret and, obviously, the gun.

[Mechles]

Originally posted by Chest Masterson:

Originally posted by aScientologist:

the problem with the the ability to upgrade from t34/76 to t34/85 presents two problems:
1. t34/76 is a medium tank, while a t34/85 is heavy tank (maybe but it affects tech.)
2. t34/85 maybe from a t34 design, but a t34/85 uses a bigger chassis than t34/76 and the also the tank turret would also need to be changed in for a turret that can hold a much bigger barrel.

It appears you don't know your facts. The t-35/85 was never considered a heavy tank. It was a medium tank. The t-34/85 does not have a bigger chassis. The only thing that is different between the t-34/76 and the t-34/85 is the turret and, obviously, the gun.

my bad, about the chassis... BUT i don't know if relic made the t34/5 a heavy tank, if they made the panther a heavy tank, the t34/85 could possibly be a heavy tank.

[Chest Masterson]

Originally posted by aScientologist:

Originally posted by Chest Masterson:

It appears you don't know your facts. The t-35/85 was never considered a heavy tank. It was a medium tank. The t-34/85 does not have a bigger chassis. The only thing that is different between the t-34/76 and the t-34/85 is the turret and, obviously, the gun.

my bad, about the chassis... BUT i don't know if relic made the t34/5 a heavy tank, if they made the panther a heavy tank, the t34/85 could possibly be a heavy tank.

By the way, the Panther was also considered a medium tank during WWII. I don't know what relic classifies these tanks as, but if they consider it a heavy tank, they are far from correct.