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I think Fury made Americans look bad--like crazy, blood-thirsty murderers, and I'm sure that there were some like that during WWII, but not the majority.
I do love tanks (I began my fascination with them when I flew helicopters with the 2d Armored Division at Ft Hood, Texas) so I'd watch it again for some of the early battle scenes. Other than that, it was a lousy movie--2 out of 5 stars.
But still, I enjoyed the movie very much. :)
Pitt had also produced it, which i Had not known. Thread can get as derailed as it wants haha idc, but that debate abot murders or heroes is rather complicated as it pretty much varies solder to solider and to make a generall blanket statement about all solders as murders or heroes is ignorant.
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Haha well after thinking about it I'm not sure if it was directed as well as Saving Private Ryan becasue I felt at some points the ispecial effects were WAY TOO REAL, especially when Shia's character takes the bullet to the face or when the rookie finds the 1/4th of a human face in the tank, almost made me puke, compared to that movie saving private ryan (albeit it was made awhile ago) Grossing out the audience with violence can be real hit or miss.
Someone mentioned they wre curious as to why the shermans didn't light up the tiger 131, probably because it had a 88 mm cannon that could shoot accurately of ranges up to 200 meters while shermans had armor that was barely two inches thick in the front . So they decided to smoke it out and charge, but they didn't spam the tank with enough smoke to the point where it couldn't see and then just shoot into the cloud of smoke (which is what I would have tried to do like a coward)
To comment on the heroic last stand of the americans I thinnk it was a symbolic scene about the movie in general. Just because it seems like something YOU wouldn't do, doesn't mean that somebody else more courageous wouldn't do it also. It's also worth mentioning that this was the end of the war and germany was using all she could to fight the allies including using improperly trained soldiers such as Hitlerjugen (hitler youth) and Volksturm (old men) For one to say there was no heroic acts of courage and valour for one's country like this in the war is just ignorant. I know it's shocking but it's something that's hard to relate to nowadays as times are different but it's true, the human spirit can be pushed to insanely uncharacterisly inhmane feats of bravery, especially when you know you're fighting for the right reasons. (to end the hollocaust) There are countless accounts of all types of incredible feats. I'll post this link here for those of you who wish to see some real ones, that had been awarded the Medal of Honor: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Medal_of_Honor_recipients_for_World_War_II
Here are a couple that will make you rethink claiming that the ending was too "hollywood"
1."Second Lt. Murphy commanded Company B, which was attacked by six tanks and waves of infantry. 2d Lt. Murphy ordered his men to withdraw to a prepared position in a woods, while he remained forward at his command post and continued to give fire directions to the artillery by telephone. Behind him, to his right, one of the tank destroyers received a direct hit and began to burn. Its crew withdrew to the woods. 2d Lt. Murphy continued to direct artillery fire, which killed large numbers of the advancing enemy infantry. With the enemy tanks abreast of his position, 2d Lt. Murphy climbed on the burning tank destroyer, which was in danger of blowing up at any moment, and employed its .50 caliber machine gun against the enemy. He was alone and exposed to German fire from three sides, but his deadly fire killed dozens of Germans and caused their infantry attack to waver. The enemy tanks, losing infantry support, began to fall back. For an hour the Germans tried every available weapon to eliminate 2d Lt. Murphy, but he continued to hold his position and wiped out a squad that was trying to creep up unnoticed on his right flank. Germans reached as close as 10 yards, only to be mowed down by his fire. He received a leg wound, but ignored it and continued his single-handed fight until his ammunition was exhausted. He then made his way back to his company, refused medical attention, and organized the company in a counterattack, which forced the Germans to withdraw. His directing of artillery fire wiped out many of the enemy; he killed or wounded about 50. 2d Lt. Murphy's indomitable courage and his refusal to give an inch of ground saved his company from possible encirclement and destruction, and enabled it to hold the woods which had been the enemy's objective"
2. "During the opening days of the Battle of the Bulge, Lieutenant Lyle Bouck Jr. and his squad of 16 men held off a Entire 500 man battalian of soldiers, while inflictring 90 casualties. Although they were captured (later rescued)they severly disrupted the Sixth Panzer Army in the process. Lyle Bouck Jr. was 20 years old at the time."
LOL ok dude whatever helps you sleep at night.
As for the German troops being a group of rabble scraped together, I agree that by 1945 that was predominantly what Germany was fielding, but I thought I remembered in the movie them pointing out that the unit coming at them was an "elite" unit. I'm sure this was done to raise the stakes in true Hollywood fashion.
Its nothing to do with courage, its more like idioacy. No army would have committed to such an assault in such a fashion. People were not stupid, a company that size would have had the equipment to have taken it out without such casualties.
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I sleep fine at night. Just stating the truth about Hollywood.
You are ignorant as ♥♥♥♥ to think the movie was a part of some liberal agenda. lol.
Their mission was to destroy german fortifications, to destroy supply lines and so on,
but it was common for them to encounter german forces moving to the front,
soldiers, and tanks, and the Americans had to hold them as best as they could
knowing that if they will reach the front, many lives will be lost, so they
sucreficed themselves knowing that they will save many lives.
(And also they couldnt retreat, because they were behind the enemy lines)
And also ♥♥♥♥ Winters is a badass.
Bad Ass was the First and Second Battle of Wake Island but thats off topic. God I want USMC in COH2 USF Obersoldaten :D