Kubelwagen is op

[GerMeC]

Why Kubel mg Supress infantry?
AND MG on M3 no supress them???
WTF mb made M3 then supressive to?
OR MADE THE **** kubel not supressive?
What is the difference betven this MGs

[CaptGasworthy]

one can house a squad of troops, the other cant. In all honesty kubels arn't as good as you think they are. The AI pathfinding for them is clumsy in my experience and relatively weak

[Kant]

Kubels are squishy and easily lost if you don't back them up from infantry, especially Russians with AT grenades to cripple them. Also remember that the Kubel has to stay stationary for a few seconds before it can suppress.

[GerMeC]

to trow AT nade you need 25 fuel to get em and then 25 munition to trow +10 munition for hurray to reach kubel + 240 mp to build scripts(that are easyly shredded by sturmpios) kubel shows when u have no AT nades. supresses 2 squads that u have(of 3). and sturmpio+folks stomp them.

[GerMeC]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Mr Stalin:

one can house a squad of troops, the other cant. In all honesty kubels arn't as good as you think they are. The AI pathfinding for them is clumsy in my experience and relatively weak

Pfff and what, if it is historical game when front armor ot KT can't be penetrated=> all mg's must supress, give soviets su 100, they have it.
Fnd Wolfmarens Vs katyusha? Why wolfmarens rockets Penetrate tanks armor and katyusha not?

[GerMeC]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Mr Stalin:

one can house a squad of troops, the other cant. In all honesty kubels arn't as good as you think they are. The AI pathfinding for them is clumsy in my experience and relatively weak

They cant house an MG.
Both have MG's that must supress both or not supress both.

[Ric]

It's certianly not OP.

Annoying yes, OP definitely not. Weak armour, narrow arc of fire, easy to flank.

[GerMeC]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Ric666:

It's certianly not OP.

Annoying yes, OP definitely not. Weak armour, narrow arc of fire, easy to flank.

on most of maps in the early game as u run to point of fuel or ammo or a star, there is a place where u can put it and it cover most of normal pathing. and to flank it u need to go over a half(about 2-3 minutes) of map, and axis can buil a f*cking waterpool while u doing that.

[Lasse Bluten]

lol you should have seen kubel after he got buffed and then received a few days later a fat nerf. This was the real OP Kübel, now it's just a mg on wheels

[Arterion]

If you truly think Kubel's are OP. Get good man.

[GerMeC]

Początkowo opublikowane przez PanzerKampfWagen VI Tiger:

If you truly think Kubel's are OP. Get good man.

let me house snipers(at is was earlier) or mg's in m3
Then it will be nice.
But when u have MG on auto at early game it's balance ruining.

[Arterion]

Początkowo opublikowane przez gepmec:

Początkowo opublikowane przez PanzerKampfWagen VI Tiger:

If you truly think Kubel's are OP. Get good man.

let me house snipers(at is was earlier) or mg's in m3
Then it will be nice.
But when u have MG on auto at early game it's balance ruining.

2-3 conscripts can do it, and by now I'm sure you realise you can flank. Just do some micro.

[CaptGasworthy]

Początkowo opublikowane przez gepmec:

to trow AT nade you need 25 fuel to get em and then 25 munition to trow +10 munition for hurray to reach kubel + 240 mp to build scripts(that are easyly shredded by sturmpios) kubel shows when u have no AT nades. supresses 2 squads that u have(of 3). and sturmpio+folks stomp them.

i had 1 squad of riflmen(vet 1) 1 squad of rear echlons against 1 sturm, 1 volks and 1 kubel wagon. I ended up on top wiping the sturms and the volks retreating with 3 men left while the kubel drove away. i had 5 left in the rifle squad and 1 left in rear (retreated)

[Rabbit]

Deal with it.

[GerMeC]

i had 1 squad of riflmen(vet 1) 1 squad of rear echlons against 1 sturm, 1 volks and 1 kubel wagon. I ended up on top wiping the sturms and the volks retreating with 3 men left while the kubel drove away. i had 5 left in the rifle squad and 1 left in rear (retreated) [/quote]
Cool story bro. If they cam one by one only.

[YCWD]

Why does the Kubel Suppress Infantry??
Because its OKW Non Doctrinal MG

Why Doesnt the M3???
Because its a troop transport. The Kubel also cant chase you across the map and whipe your squad with a flame pio inside...

The difference is balance.

The Kubel was OP and it has since been nerfed. Its not a problem anymore. There are lots of known counters. Even Rear Ech do full damage to Kubels. Try building a Second RE if kubel is a problem and just swarm it.