The strongest units in the game?

[JoeVonFo]

Hi there :)
One of the "problems" i've had with COH2 is that the unit stats are not available, making it hard to know what infantry is strongest in a fire fight at long range, for example.

Now i know that a weaker unit may be better than a more expensive one due to it's cost, but the idea with this thread is not to evaluate the over all usefulness of a unit but only pure power, so that you know what the odds are if your paratrooper goes toe to toe with a squad of obersoldaten for example..

So without further discussion:
What units do you think are the strongest in the following categories:

(Please list unit name and faction name, so that everyone know what you're talking about and feel free to add information about upgrades needed for the unit to be at its strongest.)

((As a last category i've added "personal favorite" where you can pick your favorite unit based on performance, cost and tech needed))


Infantry - best short range:
Infantry - best medium range:
Infantry - best long range:
Infantry - best anti armor:
Infantry - best all round:
Infantry - personal favorite (cost/tech requires included):

best anti tank artillery:
best anti infantry artillery:
artillery - personal favorite (cost/tech requires included):

Vehicles - best anti armor:
Vehicles - best anti infantry:
Vehicles - best all round:
Vehicles - personal favorite (cost/tech requires included):

[[AJSA]MeloDeath]

Tiger Ace is an Elite Tiger 1. Tiger Ace is better then an unveted köningstiger but a high vet KöningTiger is better. Tiger Ace can only be found in the Elite Trooper Commander.

[BusinessPenguin]

Coh2.stats.org

[YCWD]

Originally posted by Raijin:

JHeartless: Yes i saw, but i cant find viechle dps in there :)

What is the Tiger Ace i've been reading about then? How do you get that?
Cant find it in any unit guides but from the forum threads i've read it seems to blow anything out of the Waters..
Some of the soviet doctrine heavy tanks also seems rather nasty.

The DPS varies on Range and it is broken up further by which weapon as for example the MGs only count to infantry DPS.

Here is the link to King tiger and then click weapons then its main gun and there you go

http://www.coh2-stats.com/vehicles/king_tiger_sdkfz_182_mp

http://www.coh2-stats.com/ballistic_weapons/tiger_kwk43_88mm_mp

Or you can check the spreadsheet from COH2 org and get an idea from the tables. But the data is all there. If you are looking for simple formulas this is COH2 not C&C you wont find simple. It all depends on alot of factors.

[Hurricane]

The jagd and KT are situational, i rarely build them, cost way too much fuel and panthers are better tbh.

[Chino!!]

conscripts.... ;p (lol)

[YCWD]

Just for fun ill take a swag at your list:

Infantry - best short range: Shock Troops Soviet Doctrinal
Infantry - best medium range: Pgrens
Infantry - best long range: Obersoldaten
Infantry - best anti armor: Pgrens/Volks Pgrens do more damage but Volks can take more of a beating.
Infantry - best all round: Grens with LMG, Cheap, Faust, High Infanty DPS for cost
Infantry - personal favorite (cost/tech requires included): Airborne due to no tech and the doctrine they are in. Second best AI squad in game and are part of a great doctrine.

best anti tank artillery: 240MM Soviet Doctrinal
best anti infantry artillery:Stuka Zu Fuss
artillery - personal favorite (cost/tech requires included):Stuka Zu Fuss because it is less RNG and more skill and can do some really really high damage if done right.

Vehicles - best anti armor: JagdTiger OKW Doctrinal
Vehicles - best anti infantry: KV8 Soviet Doctrinal
Vehicles - best all round: T34/85
Vehicles - personal favorite (cost/tech requires included): T70 against Ost only. Well used that little bastard is a cheaper and slightly worse KV8 but due to tech cost of T3 not worth it in most cases. Due to the cost and OKW quick Puma its almost never used but that doesnt make it not a good unit.

[JoeVonFo]

Thx Heartless :)
Gotta try those shock troops sometimes.. They seem like a lot of fun. And i should prolly take the stuka for another spin :)

To me the fallschirmjagers have seens like a beast of an infantry squad even though they lack anti-armor.

[YCWD]

Originally posted by Raijin:

Thx Heartless :)
Gotta try those shock troops sometimes.. They seem like a lot of fun. And i should prolly take the stuka for another spin :)

To me the fallschirmjagers have seens like a beast of an infantry squad even though they lack anti-armor.

They have Faust but Airborne can destory them. They cost more then Obers but require no tech and have cheaper reinforce. They are redundant to me. I can and will always get Obers. The faust is nice though. But then again over 1000 hours as Soviets I am just fine laying mines everywhere to snare vehicles.

Obers at Vet I call walking KV8s. They get that good...go check the STG44 upgrade stats just for LOLs. With STGs Obers will even smash Shocks at all ranges. Falls stand 0 chance against Vet STs.

[Hurricane]

Best medium is not pgrens its riflemen :) cba to read the reast :P

[Hurricane]

Best medium is not pgrens its riflemen :) cba to read the reast :P

[Hurricane]

Best medium is not pgrens its riflemen :) cba to read the reast :P

[Hurricane]

Best medium is not pgrens its riflemen :) cba to read the reast :P

[BeingThere]

best close range infantry= Thompson Paratroopers, Shock troops

best mediumr range infantry= Obersoldaten

Best long range infantry = Obersoldaten

Best regular infantry= With munition investment, Volks. Without, Riflemen.

Best "all-round" infantry= Grenadiers or Riflemen.

[butterfingers158]

Originally posted by SHADOW OF THE BAT!!:

Best medium is not pgrens its riflemen :) cba to read the reast :P

Riflemen Mid Range DPS: 14.18
Riflemen Mid Range DPS (2x BAR): 19.82
PGren Mid Range DPS: 27.18

With PGrens having better Vet and more received accuracy modifiers.

[Hurricane]

Originally posted by butterfingers800:

Originally posted by SHADOW OF THE BAT!!:

Best medium is not pgrens its riflemen :) cba to read the reast :P

Riflemen Mid Range DPS: 14.18
Riflemen Mid Range DPS (2x BAR): 19.82
PGren Mid Range DPS: 27.18

With PGrens having better Vet and more received accuracy modifiers.

Thats basic rilfes no upgrades.......

Rilemen is 5 man and pwn pgrens all day long.