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EnigmaVisionary 2015 年 5 月 27 日 上午 12:55
About "only one heavy tank on field"
It's one of the best addition to the game and i appreciate this feature.

But, if it will be so, please take one thing in consideration and perhaps think about some changes to all heavy tanks.
How about buff all heavy tanks for about 25% in all stats, at least in HP and armor.
That because we will can have only one at the same time on field and it has to be a bit tougher than now.

What do you think about, would that compensate a bit the thing that only one will see the battlefield ?
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Mowferless 2015 年 5 月 27 日 上午 6:18 
I like the idea. It won't really impact 1v1 or 2v2 but in 4v4 it sucks when on player runs around the map with 3 tigers and a bunch of engineers (and that's all). It's just not fun. Can be interchangeable with IS2 s so don't be butt hurt germans. Keep in mind though this means the day of the panther is at hand. Rather face a tiger than a panther. Panthers for everyone!
Relkin43 2015 年 5 月 27 日 上午 6:30 
Eh this sounds like crap. Noobs that need to learn to play complaining because they are baddies once again ruining another game. Russians have IS2's - US has great infantry that can zooka spam + M10's which have great range + DPS (forward scout for them noobs). There are counters but they require you to not be a baddie. Wermacht can get call in tigers sure but their early game is weak outside of ostruppen (against US esp assault engineers even then they're just weak out the gate) but ramp up over time. OKW has the same issue but is less weak in early game (sooks mid) then rocks endgame. I don't see a problem here, learn to use your army properly...
Fornax The Lazy 2015 年 5 月 27 日 上午 6:35 
Eh this sounds like crap. Noobs that need to learn to play complaining because they are baddies once again ruining another game. Russians have IS2's - US has great infantry that can zooka spam + M10's which have great range + DPS (forward scout for them noobs). There are counters but they require you to not be a baddie. Wermacht can get call in tigers sure but their early game is weak outside of ostruppen (against US esp assault engineers even then they're just weak out the gate) but ramp up over time. OKW has the same issue but is less weak in early game (sooks mid) then rocks endgame. I don't see a problem here, learn to use your army properly...
If one can use the same way to win as he/she did before,then it's not a game.
最后由 Fornax The Lazy 编辑于; 2015 年 5 月 27 日 上午 6:36
[HKG]hkwh01 2015 年 5 月 27 日 上午 6:38 
No, Axis Need More heavy tanks .
Relkin43 2015 年 5 月 27 日 上午 6:43 
引用自 Major Fornax
Eh this sounds like crap. Noobs that need to learn to play complaining because they are baddies once again ruining another game. Russians have IS2's - US has great infantry that can zooka spam + M10's which have great range + DPS (forward scout for them noobs). There are counters but they require you to not be a baddie. Wermacht can get call in tigers sure but their early game is weak outside of ostruppen (against US esp assault engineers even then they're just weak out the gate) but ramp up over time. OKW has the same issue but is less weak in early game (sooks mid) then rocks endgame. I don't see a problem here, learn to use your army properly...
If one can use the same way to win as he/she did before,then it's not a game.

That doesn't really make sense but I THINK you are TRYING to say that if you don't use a different strat every single game then it's not a "game" (which is as laughable as it is impossible) - it depends on what your opponents are doing. I play with my friends most of the time and sometimes we use heavy tanks and infantry, sometimes two will go heavy and I'll spam P4's to support. We've had games where we've built no armor except for a few stugs and relied on shreks and air support.

Game is fine, meta is fine. Early game dictates what happens in late game which makes complete sense.
YCWD 2015 年 5 月 27 日 上午 7:29 
引用自 Ranger_501st

Spamming M10s doesn't get the job done, with as weak health as the M36 and less damage, penetration, and range .

Someone hasnt kept up with the Patch notes....Go read the last notes regarding the M10...Further at Vet 1 which is VERY easy to get with Infantry crush ALONE it has better Pen then the Jackson actually.

Edit: Further without Major your first M10 is free. Both together do 320 a shot for less investment on the first two then the first Jackson. They also still outrange heavies by 10M and are faster then a Jackson. I have killed more Heavies with M10s then I have with Jacksons. They are much less risky. You can chase down an almost dead Tiger with one it is too fast for the Tiger to escape and if it DOES get blown up you traded 85 fuel for over 200.

Pentrating hits for an M10 alone to kill a Tiger 7 TTK 28 seconds

Pentrating hits for a Jackson alone to kill a Tiger 6 TTK 31.2

最后由 YCWD 编辑于; 2015 年 5 月 27 日 上午 7:49
Fornax The Lazy 2015 年 5 月 27 日 上午 7:37 
引用自 Major Fornax
If one can use the same way to win as he/she did before,then it's not a game.

That doesn't really make sense but I THINK you are TRYING to say that if you don't use a different strat every single game then it's not a "game" (which is as laughable as it is impossible) - it depends on what your opponents are doing. I play with my friends most of the time and sometimes we use heavy tanks and infantry, sometimes two will go heavy and I'll spam P4's to support. We've had games where we've built no armor except for a few stugs and relied on shreks and air support.

Game is fine, meta is fine. Early game dictates what happens in late game which makes complete sense.
Yeah sorry for my bad English :/
As for the "game or not " part, what I was trying to say is that there are no certain steps to win the balanced game.Sure you can always spam cons and volks but it doesn't mean you will win,swarms of HT on the other hand.....
最后由 Fornax The Lazy 编辑于; 2015 年 5 月 27 日 上午 7:38
BusinessPenguin 2015 年 5 月 27 日 上午 8:50 
How about shutting the ♥♥♥♥ up and stop leaking?
kikiribukiriki 2015 年 5 月 27 日 上午 9:26 
I too feel some heavy tanks shouldnt be limited, like the KV-1 or KV-2 (unless KV-2 is buffed against vehicles in this patch).

Also maybe with other Heavy tanks there should be a limit of 2 in total, lets say making a Sturmtiger will allow you to build another Heavy tank of your choice, since Sturmtigers for example have a very limited use. Otherwise I think some Heavy tanks like the Sturmtiger, Brumbarr (if that counts as Heavy), KV-1s, etc, will get complitely neglected over this feature and we will only see the same Heavies over and over.
ShodaN 2015 年 5 月 27 日 上午 9:32 
I guess the biggest questions are "What classifies as a heavy?" and "Which ones will be affected?"...

And until that is out, you will not be able to give a proper opinion about the soon-to-be change. Also it does tie in with other changes you still know nothing clear about.
Cipher Esteria 2015 年 5 月 27 日 上午 9:54 
引用自 ShodaN
I guess the biggest questions are "What classifies as a heavy?" and "Which ones will be affected?"...
IF I'm correct than is the Panther a medium and will be uneffected,while Tigers count as HT.
What bothers me more is T34/85. I would count 1x T34/85 call in as a heavy,what would limit them.
I also think Jagdtiger and Elefant will count as heavys too,same for ISU-152.
ShodaN 2015 年 5 月 27 日 上午 10:02 
引用自 Cipher
引用自 ShodaN
I guess the biggest questions are "What classifies as a heavy?" and "Which ones will be affected?"...
IF I'm correct than is the Panther a medium and will be uneffected,while Tigers count as HT.
What bothers me more is T34/85. I would count 1x T34/85 call in as a heavy,what would limit them.
I also think Jagdtiger and Elefant will count as heavys too,same for ISU-152.

Well. What I mean is, that "heavy tank" in the current state refers mainly to vehicles armor. Like the KV-1 and KV-8 are classified as heavy tanks, but they have a very small gun that cannot do a lot of damage to other tanks. Will that also factor into it?
最后由 ShodaN 编辑于; 2015 年 5 月 27 日 上午 10:04
Relkin43 2015 年 5 月 27 日 上午 10:20 
引用自 Major Fornax

That doesn't really make sense but I THINK you are TRYING to say that if you don't use a different strat every single game then it's not a "game" (which is as laughable as it is impossible) - it depends on what your opponents are doing. I play with my friends most of the time and sometimes we use heavy tanks and infantry, sometimes two will go heavy and I'll spam P4's to support. We've had games where we've built no armor except for a few stugs and relied on shreks and air support.

Game is fine, meta is fine. Early game dictates what happens in late game which makes complete sense.
Yeah sorry for my bad English :/
As for the "game or not " part, what I was trying to say is that there are no certain steps to win the balanced game.Sure you can always spam cons and volks but it doesn't mean you will win,swarms of HT on the other hand.....

Swarms of HT can lose for sure. SU lines are actually quit effective if utilized properly as is CAS and arty.
Mechanized Joe 2015 年 5 月 27 日 上午 10:24 
I believe the one heavy tank on the field is a brilliant idea it will force players to think more while using their tanks and will have to rely on tactics instead of raw fire power and armor. as for the buff i think the heavy should stay as they are if they still cost the same. this is just my opinion if you don't agree with it that's fine
Pashahlis 2015 年 5 月 27 日 上午 10:38 
引用自 Cipher
引用自 ShodaN
I guess the biggest questions are "What classifies as a heavy?" and "Which ones will be affected?"...
IF I'm correct than is the Panther a medium and will be uneffected,while Tigers count as HT.
What bothers me more is T34/85. I would count 1x T34/85 call in as a heavy,what would limit them.
I also think Jagdtiger and Elefant will count as heavys too,same for ISU-152.
The T34/85 is a medium too, how the ♥♥♥♥ do you think its a heavy?
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