I heard alot of people hate the Soviet campaign

[Oleg Mongol]

Why is this? Is it because the Soviet leadership is portrayed badly? or because not every German is a Nazi beast with a personal gripe to grind with the Russians? Or is it a gameplay issue, a story issue?

[Skaldy]

have you played it? it is unchallenging and pretty much doesnt have a story except WW2 gone bad.

[Oleg Mongol]

Originally posted by Skaldy:

have you played it? it is unchallenging and pretty much doesnt have a story except WW2 gone bad.

Yes, I've played it. I enjoy it but I do agree it isn't very challenging and doesn't have too much variety.

[Inquisitioner]

When COH2 was released, due to the Soviet campaign it recieved the ultimate hate spam in forms of negative reviews from russians, saying it betrayed them by portraying em as monsters and germans as heroes trying to defend their homeland. Examples are mission to burn soviet troops as soviet and such. It was also terrible balanced and just bad.

[l33tness08]

Honestly, I just didn't like the faction. It's not something I really enjoy playing.

If I play Russia, it's usually co-op and I do something fun and cheese like literally only spam t34s

[Asian Milf Lover 420]

I think its because the title of the game is Company of Heroes keyword heroes but it most of the Soviet army as villians example the Russian officer executing the polish partisans and another part when a russian officer executes a soldier for saving another russian officer when compared to the campaign from Company of Heroes 1 where the Americans are protrayed as the saviours of Europe so pretty much its because Russians were protayed as bad guys but in the end I dont really care as with most people I bought the game for multiplayer and only played single player because its there.

[abc1]

i hate relics for not developing german campaign in coh 2 :D

[Javi_Wan]

I have liked the soviet campaign, by default it isn't very challeging, more oriented to a casual gameplay, it is true, but with all extra achievements per mission, it can result interesting. On the one hand, the story and their nexus (those interrogatories and flashbacks) make it a bit forced in terms of fluency. On the other hand, I don't like things in black and white, i prefer to see the "good ones" with their flaws and failures, not as propagandistic moral paragons of virtue. And to show us this, they do this throught making the "bad guys" less hateable, with some human side, so you can feel empathy with the protagonist and the doubs he develops during the war.

[Oleg Mongol]

Originally posted by Javi_Wan:

I have liked the soviet campaign, by default it isn't very challeging, more oriented to a casual gameplay, it is true, but with all extra achievements per mission, it can result interesting. On the one hand, the story and their nexus (those interrogatories and flashbacks) make it a bit forced in terms of fluency. On the other hand, I don't like things in black and white, i prefer to see the "good ones" with their flaws and failures, not as propagandistic moral paragons of virtue. And to show us this, they do this throught making the "bad guys" less hateable, with some human side, so you can feel empathy with the protagonist and the doubs he develops during the war.

I think it's good that they don't demonize ordinary soldiers. In the end, nobody wanted to be there, and would probably do anything to go home. War is hell for everyone involved. Except the politicians.

[Oleg Mongol]

Originally posted by Inquisitioner:

When COH2 was released, due to the Soviet campaign it recieved the ultimate hate spam in forms of negative reviews from russians, saying it betrayed em as monsters and germans as heroes trying to defend their homeland deal. Examples are mission to burn soviet troops as soviet and such.

They should probably do some research on the Soviet leadership and Russia's useless mass-wave infantry tactics used during the war before spewing mindless Nationalistic dribble.

[Asian Milf Lover 420]

But the only good characters in CoH2 seems to be theman character guy and a few conscripts here and there

[RIOT|Stalkermaster]

To be fair the campaign is more a tutorial to the whole game just instead of it being Ai skirmishes you have some nice objectives and some cool missions

For example I really liked the one where you only had a handful of squads vs the tank which was nearly indestructible. For a new comer to Coh that mission was great
Same with mission three where just as it looked like all hope was lost a bunch of angry Russian T-34s came in and saved the day. Those sort of stuff don't really happen in the Mp

[Seppiya]

I agree, some of the missions were very well done. But the entire campaign was undermined by the poor story and deliberate twisting of facts to try and make the Soivets look bad. They should have just stuck with the vCoH style, focussing lots of missions around a certain area and releasing new campaigns as DLC. Trying to show the entire eastern front was never going to work.

For example:
- Defence and counterattack at Moscow
- Siege of Leningrad
- Battle of Stalingrad
- Battle of Kursk
- Operation Bagration etc.
- Final battles around Berlin and Seelow Heights

All of these could have been good mini campaings, kind of like the CoH 1 Tales of Valour ones. And it would allow for much more diversity in missions. Notthe same as Theatres of War as they would be more structured and story-based.

[Sluipkots]

Enemy at the gates in videogame form. Stereotypical portrayal of soviet troops (and no I'am not denying that some of the things shown are all bs) and too much of a focus on soviet atrocities compared to german, which were arguably much worse.

And the story is just a weird mess, focusing on just 1 melodramatic victim person instead of a whole company of soldiers. They could've conjured up a story about a single unit, like the 13th guards division. Which fought in almost all the major battles.

[Bing Chilling]

Originally posted by Democracy:

How did they twist facts? I read alot of books from German veterans who sometimes said that when they recaptured villages in Russia the towns would sometimes be burned to the ground because the Soviets thought that anyone who lived under German occupation could be a collaborator. They did the same thing on the way to Germany.

Because the mission where you burned down the villages had you literally burning the villages down with civilians still in them, and have you burning your own troops because 'there isn't enough time' which is stupid as hell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2m4SCUaBHS8
32 minute video if why the CoH2 campaign is retarded

[Oleg Mongol]

Originally posted by Картошка:

Originally posted by Democracy:

How did they twist facts? I read alot of books from German veterans who sometimes said that when they recaptured villages in Russia the towns would sometimes be burned to the ground because the Soviets thought that anyone who lived under German occupation could be a collaborator. They did the same thing on the way to Germany.

Because the mission where you burned down the villages had you literally burning the villages down with civilians still in them, and have you burning your own troops because 'there isn't enough time' which is stupid as hell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2m4SCUaBHS8
32 minute video if why the CoH2 campaign is retarded

That guy is just a silly Soviet-♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Forget the mass-rape and murder on the way to Germany, forget Stalin's purges, forgot the siberian death camps, "Oh Stalin vaas hirro, he save Russia from Natzees" he's just brainwashed into believing the Soviet leadership were good guys who wanted to help everyone in Russia out.

Edit: No, I'm not saying the Nazi leadership was good, but they were nowhere near as bad as the Soviet leadership who were hardly Socialists.