POLAND as next new force DLC !!!

[LeeFu]

How it could be that the fourth bigest army and brave more then others, are not in the game?

DONT BE AN IGNORANT - You think You know anything about POLISH contribution?
Don't be silly !

Take small quiz game ;p
http://www.funtrivia.com/trivia-quiz/History/Poland-during-World-War-II-129595.html

or listen nice music.
Music touching the subject *(Sweedish group Sabaton) READ SOME COMENTS !
Dont be and ignorants to my brave ancestors !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoQj8GGHNxU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21Uqy2YjuP4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-dOQjie6pQ

And the fact about how Poland saved Europe - Another one is Battle of Viena.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gip7vk_bxP8

Some small feeders ;p

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SOME TRUTH documentaries *(still some freaking stupid jokes) - English version *(still short)
This movie contain many myths and not showing full contribution
*( still horse atack on tanks - joke ). Poland was fighting for more then month *(more then any other taken country in WWII, even atacked first without declaration of war and still after Rusians atack on 17.Sep.1939)

Polish War actions timeline - Quite interesting

http://www.secondworldwarhistory.com/poland-ww2-events-timeline.asp

Documentary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMlrL2x173w

To get it more facts please find theese books !

http://www.polishforcesmemorial.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=56&Itemid=77
http://www.amazon.co.uk/First-Fight-Polands-Contribution-Victory/dp/0955782449
http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs26/f/2009/249/9/6/Poland__First_to_Fight_by_R1FL3.jpg
http://www.amazon.com/No-Greater-Ally-Polands-Military/dp/1849084793

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MY prologue *(sory for english)

I wish to see POLAND as the fourth bigest army in WWII and World that time.
I dont have remind that Polish Army was fighting from the begining till end and never surrender. Poland was protecting Allies *(whom betrey Poland couple times and sell it to Soviets) and encrypt Enigma. Polish Underground Country was one of the planet idea and Poland as only one country being taken, never surrender nor make puppet state *(quick and without fight like France / Czechoslovakia/ Austria/ Holand etc). Polish squadrons *(most know 303) were best in air *(flying on new machines and not using english language)They still destroyed more German air planes then any english squadron fighting for own country.

Not concider take Poland as an Army is a big mistake. It was the bravest army in this war... Has some lack of equipment but not as they try to describe. And never charge with horses on tanks *(it is propaganda for idiots). Polish cavarly divisons were wery fast and sillient and they were fighting betwen two army lines for longer then a month. Polish cavlary was making sudden attack on tank divisions at night where they were making huge succes and destroyed couple of them tottaly *( what tank can do without crew and at night to horse which see at night and soldiers who know how to fight?), Polish soldiers take many points fighting with allies *(the ones Allied forces couldt get in many tries- Batle of Monte Casino and many others)

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Very Small history lesson !

Lint to Wikiw official version *(intresting)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_contribution_to_World_War_II
Links about fact that Poland role in WWII was ridiculed with some reasons.
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/466681/Poland/28215/World-War-II

FACTS AND MYTHS
http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-surprising-facts-about-poland-during-wwii.php
http://gadabyte.com/ww-ii/poland.html
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120901172827AAFMlQO
https://www.ww2.pl/Polish,contribution,to,the,Allied,victory,in,World,War,2,%281939-1945%29,132.html

Polish inventions in WWII
http://polishgreatness.blogspot.ie/2010/12/polish-inventions-ww2-weapons.html

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HOW THE WAR CAME TO POLAND

41. Why Hitler Attacked Poland?

From 1934 to 1939 Hitler repeatedly urged Poland to join Germany in an attack on Soviet Russia, promising her large territorial gains in Eastern Europe. Poland rejected all of Hitler's proposals. Furthermore, Poland's vitality and the decline of the German population made it obvious that by 1975 the Poles would have become equal to the Germans and that time was working against German supremacy. Indeed 1939 was the year in which the strength of the German manpower in relation to the Polish manpower was at its maximum. That year

was chosen long before for aggression against Poland.

42. September 1, 1939

At dawn on September 1, 1939, German land and air armies attacked Poland without any declaration of war, crossing the frontier at 14 points from East Prussia, West Prussia, Silesia, Moravia and Slovakia. Germany bombed all Polish airfields and 61 towns within the first few hours.

43. Unequal Forces

The relative strength of Polish and German forces in September, 1939, was as follows:
Poland Germany
Infantry 31 divisions / 70 divisions
Panzer units 1 division /14 divisions
Planes 443 /4320
Fire power ratio 1 /72


44. 35 Days of Polish-German War

The German-Polish war lasted 35 days, from September 1 to October 5, 1939. At ♥♥♥♥ the last of the major engagements of the war was fought on October 5th. The siege of Warsaw, capital of Poland, lasted 19 days in spite of heavy air and artillery bombardment. Warsaw surrendered , on September 27, when the armies had exhausted all ammunition, the water supply was cut, and 200 large fires were raging in the city.

45. Sept. 17, 1939-the Critical Day

September 17, 1939, was the most critical day of the German-Polish war.
On September 14, German panzer units had been stopped thanks to the resistance of the Polish armies and to the extension of German supply lines. The Poles began to organize effective resistance along the marshes of Polesie and in Galicia. But at dawn on September 17, without any declaration of war, Soviet Russia despite her non-aggression treaty with Poland attacked on the rear of the Polish armies fighting Germany. On September 28, Germany and Russia signed an agreement dividing Poland between themselves for "all times," along the Ribbentrop-Molotov line.

POLISH ARMY IN EXILE

46. Polish Army in France
Very shortly after the cessation of organized fighting by Polish forces against the German invaders, a Polish army was formed in France by General Sikorski. This army consisted of 4 1/2 infantry divisions, an armored brigade and the Carpanthian brigade, some 100,000 men in all. The first and second divisions took part in the battle of France; the Carpathian Brigade fought in Norway and was the first to enter Narvik.

47. Polish Army in England

After the collapse of France, General Sikorski succeeded in evacuating a large part of the Polish troops to England, where Poland now has an army corps including an armored division, a rifle brigade, a parachute brigade , and other units.

48. Polish Army in the Middle East

When the Polish-Russian Treaty as signed in July, 1941, a number of Polish prisoners of war in Russia were released, and a new army was organized on Russian soil under General Anders. Before having been equipped it was transferred to the Middle East at the request of the Soviet Government. With the Carpathian Brigade now expanded to a Division, it forms separate army corps. Polish ground forces in the Middle East number some 75,000 men, fully trained and equipped with the most modern American and British armament.

49. Polish Air Force

After the fall of Poland, Polish fighter squadrons were set up in France, while bomber crews were training in Britain. When Hitler attacked in the West, 133 Polish fighter pilots, fighting with the British and French Air Forces faced his air armada. They won 55 victories, losing 15 men. Yet the most glorious achievement of the tiny Polish Air Force was in the Battle of Britain, when it destroyed 195 enemy machines out of the total of 2,366 brought down by the Royal Air Force. Since then, Polish fighter and bomber squadrons have been continually engaged and up to March, 1943, had destroyed more than 526 enemy aircraft, 7 U-boats and dropped more than 6,000 tons of bombs on 42 targets in Germany and German occupied territories. In Tunisia, Polish airmen brought down 79 enemy planes as compared with 527 downed by the American air forces. Since 1939 Polish pilots have shot down more than 1,000 German planes. A considerable number of Polish airmen also serve as pilots in the Allied armies. The Polish Air Force now numbers more than 12,000 men.

50. The Polish Navy

The Polish Navy has been fighting for 3 1/2 years alongside of the British Royal Navy. Polish sailors have taken part in many important naval actions, including the evacuation of Dunkirk, the spirited attack on the "Bismarck," the landing at Dieppe, and the recent operations off the North African coast. They have played their full part in the Battle of the Atlantic and carry on an unceasing vigil with the fleets of the United Nations in the Atlantic and the Mediterranean. Thus the destroyer "Garland" fought a 6-day battle against Nazi planes and U-boats in conveying American and British munitions to Russia. The officers and crew of this "Very Gallant Ship" were saluted by the officers and crew of the flagship of the convoy and received high British and Polish decorations.


POLAND FIGHTS ON

51. German Reign of Terror

In his message to Poland, broadcast on May 3, 1941, Prime Minister Churchill said:

"Every day Hitler's firing parties are busy in a dozen lands. Monday he shoots Dutchmen, Tuesday Norwegians, Wednesday French and Belgians stand against the wall, Thursday it is the Czechs who must suffer, and now there are the Serbs and the Greeks to fill his repulsive bill of execution. But always, all of the days, there are the Poles."

52. 8,000,000 Poles Sacrificed for Freedom

The struggle of the Polish Nation for freedom and integrity of Poland cost the Nation 8,000,000 victims. During, that time:

2,500,000 Poles were murdered by the Germans.
500,000 Poles were starved to death by the Germans.

2,000,000 Poles were sent to forced labor in Germany.

1,600,000 Poles were deported from Western Poland to the Government General.

1,500,000 Poles were deported by Soviets to Russia.

348 villages have been burned to the ground and ploughed under like Lidice, 1,080 have been evacuated and all the inhabitants either killed or deported.

53. Directorate of Civilian Resistance

Underground resistance on the Polish Home Front is directed by the Polish Government in London, through its representatives in Poland who conveys its instructions to the Directorate of Civilian Resistance responsible for the organization of sabotage, the trial and execution of German criminals.

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Автор сообщения: PolishMarksman

Автор сообщения: drumroll

I think they lasted 27 days so........

No offense but history has always cast Poland as the first to be defeated.

That means you know nothing about history my dear friend :)

Ok so some say 27-39 days. In the grand scheme it did little to help them. So don't try to be a condescending prick about it. I know my history, just not the exact dates and lengths of time regarding a country which played a comparatively minor role in ww2.

[Land]

Автор сообщения: Komandos

Автор сообщения: Blackhammer

Uuhmm I am Polish and I think this thread is embarassing.
This is a game and it needs to be balanced, what Polish units there were apart from partizans, which are ALREADY included in the game (as a call-in-unit, they have polish voices).

Seriously? In Polish version units and PARTISANS have polish voices, because we got polish localisation with audio, LMAO.

Just because he is Polish doesn't mean he 1. lives in Poland and 2. has the Polish version.

[Komandos]

Автор сообщения: Land

Just because he is Polish doesn't mean he 1. lives in Poland and 2. has the Polish version.

I didn't said that O.o .

[Deadlylag]

Автор сообщения: drumroll

Автор сообщения: PolishMarksman

That means you know nothing about history my dear friend :)

Ok so some say 27-39 days. In the grand scheme it did little to help them. So don't try to be a condescending prick about it. I know my history, just not the exact dates and lengths of time regarding a country which played a comparatively minor role in ww2.

You are right Poland surrendered in 27 days. Poland invaded on the 1st of September. Warsaw fell on the 27th of September. Poland surrender on the 27th of September.

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/poland-surrenders

[LeeFu]

Автор сообщения: Deadlylag

Автор сообщения: drumroll

Ok so some say 27-39 days. In the grand scheme it did little to help them. So don't try to be a condescending prick about it. I know my history, just not the exact dates and lengths of time regarding a country which played a comparatively minor role in ww2.

You are right Poland surrendered in 27 days. Poland invaded on the 1st of September. Warsaw fell on the 27th of September. Poland surrender on the 27th of September.

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/poland-surrenders

Warsaw surender but not Poland. Fight was continued for about two weeks after Warsaw fall.

[BHammer]

Автор сообщения: Komandos

Автор сообщения: Blackhammer

Uuhmm I am Polish and I think this thread is embarassing.
This is a game and it needs to be balanced, what Polish units there were apart from partizans, which are ALREADY included in the game (as a call-in-unit, they have polish voices).

Seriously? In Polish version units and PARTISANS have polish voices, because we got polish localisation with audio, LMAO.

Well I have english version...partisans do have polish voices in it - so they're Polish.

W angielskiej wersji mają też Polskie głosy, oczywiście tylko partyzanci.

[Deadlylag]

Автор сообщения: {f}HusaR{c}

Автор сообщения: Deadlylag

You are right Poland surrendered in 27 days. Poland invaded on the 1st of September. Warsaw fell on the 27th of September. Poland surrender on the 27th of September.

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/poland-surrenders

Warsaw surender but not Poland. Fight was continued for about two weeks after Warsaw fall.

You can spin it anyway you like. When the official government surrender it is an official surrender. France surrender when Paris fell but there were French units that kept on fighting for the entire length of the war like de Gaulle's Foreign Legion. Hell IIRC they were the first to reenter Paris.

Let me stress de Gaulle's Foreign Legion was a fully function military fighting force. They served with the utmost honor throughout the war. However the official French surrender date is the 22nd of June 1940.

http://www.historynet.com/french-foreign-legions-13th-demi-brigade-fought-in-world-war-ii.htm

The official Poland surrender date is 27th of September 1939.

[Land]

Wrong again, Warsaw surrendered but Poland didn't.
they formed the government-in-exile.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_government-in-exile go do some reading.

[TornadoADV]

If the Polish get an Army, then so should the Finns.

[Deadlylag]

Автор сообщения: Land

Wrong again, Warsaw surrendered but Poland didn't.
they formed the government-in-exile.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_government-in-exile go do some reading.

Wrong? You are wrong about who surrender first. I can go into detail of all the misinformation you spew out.

A great number of countries that were conquered by the Germans, like France for instance had "government in exile". You can spin it whatever you like. An official date is an official date.

[Victor]

Urrah for my Polish brothers, ...formidable soldiers wherever they fought and with whatever weapons that they had. Their efforts in the war against the fascists were monumental - Poland, Arnhem, Monte Cassino, tankers in Normandy, Polish pilots. The fight in Poland was no cake walk for the Germans though the German win was almost inevitable.

I think, however, that the only widely-popular treatment of Polish arms would be as users of Allied equipment - primarily British - when there was a government in exile. Adding the British would come closest to adding the Poles. You could create scenarios for Polish units using British equipment and units. Perhaps, there might be a way to give the Poles a bump in a scenario for superior morale.

[Komandos]

Автор сообщения: Blackhammer

Автор сообщения: Komandos

Seriously? In Polish version units and PARTISANS have polish voices, because we got polish localisation with audio, LMAO.

Well I have english version...partisans do have polish voices in it - so they're Polish.

W angielskiej wersji mają też Polskie głosy, oczywiście tylko partyzanci.

Wiesz ... w Ruskiej czy Japońskiej czy jakiejś tam, mogą nawet mówić po Chińsku...

[John Alexander]

Автор сообщения: Enigma

Lol ...

Imagine the next threads like ...

"Poland is OP"
"How can you counter thouse early horses ? "
"Horses are imba and OP, they killed my Tiger_Ace"
" Tiger_Ace sorounded by six horses and was kicked in his a** "
"Relic, get thouse stfu horses ballanced, they ruined the game !!! "
"Need help, how to use horses properly ! "
" Relic, please introduce a new resource .... gras "
...

HAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHHA Thank you for that comment! hahahahaha horse such op such wow nerf plox.

[John Alexander]

The ♥♥♥♥♥♥ saying that Poles were brave and best, just shut up! not even America is that patriot, and they actually did extremly well in the war compared to Poland who did.... well they did ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ nothing. And you say that French surrendered? well some people are smart they did not want there country to get ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ wrecked as Poland, if Poland did have men with intelligence they should have surrendered too. Relic don't ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ add poles, they don't deserve to have a nation.

[Emperador Panzón]

Let him have Poland in the game, a country that produces a women like this deserves it:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-JHKD4d-fBg4/Ui--T-x6emI/AAAAAAAA5Hk/QQqovvdLsDU/s640/Paulina-Krupi%C5%84ska-Miss-Poland-2013-universe-pictures-20.jpg