Assault infantry sections kinda OP

[Der Grenadier]

Is it only me or assault infantry sections from lend lease assault regiment is kinda OP unit for 0 CP. Every game brit picks this doctrine they start spam them like there is no tommorow. MG& ha! eat my white phosphorus. Grens in cover? Well yeah we lose one unit while closing in and then rape ♥♥♥♥ outta of you. They are comparable to PZgrens not assault grens but the time PZgrens come on the battlefield they have already gained 2 or 3 veterancy so PZgrens no match to them. How on earth was this unit balanced?

[Grahf]

They are garbage on any big map + they fall off hard ilke any smg unit mid/late game

[Le Negev]

So you want to say that units that don't have any ability to close the gap (unless you use some different units for help rectify this issue), any kind of snares, no long range DPS, and are even more costly than regular sections... overpreforming?

How about this
Is it only me or assault grenadier from mechanised support and strategic reserves is kinda OP unit for 0 CP. Every game ost picks this doctrine they start spam them like there is no tommorow. MG& ha! guess I will press my sprint button. Sections in cover? Well yeah we lose one unit while closing in and then rape ♥♥♥♥ outta of you. They are comparable to Shocks not assault engineers but the time Shocks come on the battlefield they have already gained 2 or 3 veterancy so Shocks no match to them. How on earth was this unit balanced?

[Felinewolfie]

Originally posted by Der Grenadier:

Is it only me or assault infantry sections from lend lease assault regiment is kinda OP unit for 0 CP. Every game brit picks this doctrine they start spam them like there is no tommorow. MG& ha! eat my white phosphorus. Grens in cover? Well yeah we lose one unit while closing in and then rape ♥♥♥♥ outta of you. They are comparable to PZgrens not assault grens but the time PZgrens come on the battlefield they have already gained 2 or 3 veterancy so PZgrens no match to them. How on earth was this unit balanced?

Assault Grenafiers?
5-6 men w smg. Throws 5-6 nades?

[Der Grenadier]

Originally posted by Le Negev:

So you want to say that units that don't have any ability to close the gap (unless you use some different units for help rectify this issue), any kind of snares, no long range DPS, and are even more costly than regular sections... overpreforming?

How about this
Is it only me or assault grenadier from mechanised support and strategic reserves is kinda OP unit for 0 CP. Every game ost picks this doctrine they start spam them like there is no tommorow. MG& ha! guess I will press my sprint button. Sections in cover? Well yeah we lose one unit while closing in and then rape ♥♥♥♥ outta of you. They are comparable to Shocks not assault engineers but the time Shocks come on the battlefield they have already gained 2 or 3 veterancy so Shocks no match to them. How on earth was this unit balanced?

jokes on you shocks have 50% less damage even without cover so your argument is blatant stupidity and yeah ass grens have sprint so have conscrips but no one have ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ability to reduce other squad mobility dealing damage that takes half of full HP in matter of seconds

[Der Grenadier]

Originally posted by Felinewolfie:

Originally posted by Der Grenadier:

Is it only me or assault infantry sections from lend lease assault regiment is kinda OP unit for 0 CP. Every game brit picks this doctrine they start spam them like there is no tommorow. MG& ha! eat my white phosphorus. Grens in cover? Well yeah we lose one unit while closing in and then rape ♥♥♥♥ outta of you. They are comparable to PZgrens not assault grens but the time PZgrens come on the battlefield they have already gained 2 or 3 veterancy so PZgrens no match to them. How on earth was this unit balanced?

Assault Grenafiers?
5-6 men w smg. Throws 5-6 nades?

but are beaten by penals for example or light vehicle like universal carrier or clown car which are non doctrinal

[Felinewolfie]

Originally posted by Der Grenadier:

Originally posted by Felinewolfie:

Assault Grenafiers?
5-6 men w smg. Throws 5-6 nades?

but are beaten by penals for example or light vehicle like universal carrier or clown car which are non doctrinal

Assault Infantry get beaten by 222.
They get beaten by flame Hanomag, which are also non doctrinal.
Pz2 absolutely wrecks them as well.

[Felinewolfie]

Originally posted by Solved ):

Originally posted by Der Grenadier:

jokes on you shocks have 50% less damage even without cover so your argument is blatant stupidity and yeah ass grens have sprint so have conscrips but no one have ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ability to reduce other squad mobility dealing damage that takes half of full HP in matter of seconds

Yea , kinda a learn to play issue. I mean if we would do it your way i should be complaining about every single unit in the axis roster doing something better in a unfair way compared to allied counter parts and believe me i have a huge list sitting next to me.

You made me smile :)

[Le Negev]

Originally posted by Der Grenadier:

jokes on you shocks have 50% less damage even without cover so your argument is blatant stupidity

It's not an argument, it's an example that your whining could be turned into a copypasta about
EVERY
SMG
UNIT
IN THE GAME
Also jokes on you, shocks have armor, not "50% less damage (sic!) without cover". Clearly, your lack of game knowlage is showing.

Originally posted by Der Grenadier:

yeah ass grens have sprint so have conscrips but no one have ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ability to reduce other squad mobility dealing damage that takes half of full HP in matter of seconds

Alright then, please tell me now, are conscripts (stock conscripts that is) have specialised close range DPS? Can they wipe a careless MG from literally the game start?
Also what is this second part of the sentence? That assault sections apparently got silent buff to their weapon profile and now deal reverse DPS with their thompsons or something? Please, be more clear in your l2p issues.

Also, please post your playercard.

[Der Grenadier]

Originally posted by Felinewolfie:

Originally posted by Der Grenadier:

but are beaten by penals for example or light vehicle like universal carrier or clown car which are non doctrinal

Assault Infantry get beaten by 222.
They get beaten by flame Hanomag, which are also non doctrinal.
Pz2 absolutely wrecks them as well.

are you idiot or what 222 and hanomag both are in tier 2 you donkey which is requier at least 4 minutes they are not going straight from the beginning and the might be late at this stage because you are already either ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up or brit is building aec

[Der Grenadier]

Originally posted by Le Negev:

Originally posted by Der Grenadier:

jokes on you shocks have 50% less damage even without cover so your argument is blatant stupidity

Also jokes on you, shocks have armor, not "50% less damage (sic!) without cover". Clearly, your lack of game knowlage is showing.
omg mister smart ass this armor gives them 50% less damage check your facts

[Felinewolfie]

Yes, brits unbeatable and OP.
That's why least played in tournaments and dead last in rankings.

Why don't you play brits and win 10,000 games in a row to prove your point?

[Der Grenadier]

Also what is this second part of the sentence? That assault sections apparently got silent buff to their weapon profile and now deal reverse DPS with their thompsons or something? Please, be more clear in your l2p issues.

if you can't understand what is written well that is not my problem. i was talking about white phosphorus

[Felinewolfie]

Originally posted by Der Grenadier:

Originally posted by Le Negev:

Also jokes on you, shocks have armor, not "50% less damage (sic!) without cover". Clearly, your lack of game knowlage is showing.
omg mister smart ass this armor gives them 50% less damage check your facts

Shock Troops take -50% dmg from a direct strike from a goliath and Sturmtiger, yup.

[Le Negev]

Originally posted by Der Grenadier:

omg mister smart ass this armor gives them 50% less damage check your facts

omg mister smart ass this armor gives them 50% chance to deflect a bullet, not damage resistance.

Originally posted by Der Grenadier:

i was talking about white phosphorus

Ah, sorry! I confused that with WP shell from the comet and sherman, the slowing abilites from Pgrens, cav rifles, VDV paras and fear propaganda! Silly me!

[Flame-kun]

Are you perhaps, by chance, using the scrublord noobmark tactic called "blob the pgrens and assgrens with my Mechanized Assault Doctrine" and then get rekt by WP Nades?

There's no way you cannot deal with it (especially as ostheer with those MG42s early to defend your oil capture and cutoff and MG42 grens mid to late game), except if you rushing them out with assgrens and find out you cannot outplay them even with pgrens and assgrens so you transition to the grens and that's way too late since you bleed so hard from those CQC fights.