Screw the pak 43 give us the 88mm flak gun back

[Archer]

Like seriously the pak43 is just not worth the investment at all. It doesn't pak enough punch as a 17 pounder and nor does it have a big of arc to angle any tanks attempting to flank it. Like seriously a tank could be charging in front of you but could easily get out of its firing arc and start shooting at the pak. In the meantime the pak crew has to pickup the gun which takes forever and reaim. But by that time the tank would continue to move around the pak and kill all of its crew. The worse part is that it can't even repair itself unlike the British emplacements and when you send a pioneer to repair it which is already in high demand will probably get killed by artillery. While the 17 pounder can reapir itself in combat which is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ rediculous if you are doing a 1v1 because there is nothing to take it out. If you are gonna mention the mortor halftrack the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ 17 pounder can snipe that ♥♥♥♥ b4 it fires and a mortor team usually gets ♥♥♥♥♥♥ by british mortor emplacements or the flak emplacements ,which suprisingly has enough range to bombart my mortors. So please relic give the weirhmact the 88mm flak gun back at least it can rotate its gun and it would really add the meaning of true defensive tactics as it can even take out air targets ,which would be nice to have since weirhmact can't do ♥♥♥♥ about British Air support.

[Salt_Extractor]

pak 43 has longer range and can ALWAYS fire trugh terrain...
place it behind a building...

[Rimmel No.1]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IM1p-Tn-jA

[Riley]

Guess what, spoiler, the 17 pounder was the best AT gun of the war, so yeah its better. German tanks stomp allied tanks in this game, use your advantages.

[Cpl. Hicks]

Originally posted by BabyWipes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IM1p-Tn-jA

Are you sure those are spoiled children? They look a lot like axis players to me.

[Rimmel No.1]

Axis players indeed Sir :)

[Cpl. Hicks]

Originally posted by BabyWipes:

Axis players indeed Sir :)

Wehraboo: "Relic can you nerf the British please? I need to use my brain to win against them!"

Relic: "Sweety we are not nerfing the British right now,"

Wehraboo: "But i need them nerfed!"

Relic: "We will nerf the British later, come on lets go."

Wehraboo: "BUT I WANT THEM NERFED! WUAAAAAAAAAA!"

[Archer]

Originally posted by Riley:

Guess what, spoiler, the 17 pounder was the best AT gun of the war, so yeah its better. German tanks stomp allied tanks in this game, use your advantages.

You got to be joking the 88mm flak gun was the best tank killing gun during the war. It had a much bigger calibre and was far more accurate than the 17 pounder because of how they managed the recoil. Not to mention since the flak 88 was initially designed to kill aircraft it can shoot farther than the 17 pounder.

[Archer]

Originally posted by Cpl. Hicks:

Originally posted by BabyWipes:

Axis players indeed Sir :)

Wehraboo: "Relic can you nerf the British please? I need to use my brain to win against them!"

Relic: "Sweety we are not nerfing the British right now,"

Wehraboo: "But i need them nerfed!"

Relic: "We will nerf the British later, come on lets go."

Wehraboo: "BUT I WANT THEM NERFED! WUAAAAAAAAAA!"

Really is that how it works? From what I remember when Allied player babies cry Relic will spoon feed them what they want. I think Relic is rather being fair this time and listen to the Axis community for once.

[Archer]

Originally posted by ihavenowingss:

pak 43 has longer range and can ALWAYS fire trugh terrain...
place it behind a building...

trugh?

[Archer]

Originally posted by Cpl. Hicks:

Originally posted by BabyWipes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IM1p-Tn-jA

Are you sure those are spoiled children? They look a lot like axis players to me.

Ok if we are argueing about OKW yes but weirhmact players don't have a distinct advantage over the Allied forces with an exception to USF. Like really what do we have that the Soviets don't? Also, what do we have that the Soviets or BF can easily counter? Please bring in a good arguement to the table instead of this pile of crap.

[Sir Whiskers]

Originally posted by (DD)Archer:

Really is that how it works? From what I remember when Allied player babies cry Relic will spoon feed them what they want. I think Relic is rather being fair this time and listen to the Axis community for once.

Except Allied players don't cry as much as Axis so they can't get the OKW to not be roflstomp :\

[Archer]

Originally posted by sir_flashy:

Originally posted by (DD)Archer:

Really is that how it works? From what I remember when Allied player babies cry Relic will spoon feed them what they want. I think Relic is rather being fair this time and listen to the Axis community for once.

Except Allied players don't cry as much as Axis so they can't get the OKW to not be roflstomp :\

We can not be definite who is being a big of cry baby but the problem is that everybody ♥♥♥♥♥♥ complains no matter what. If there is more nerfs or buffs for one faction everbody complains and endless amounts of op threads show up.

[Cpl. Hicks]

Originally posted by (DD)Archer:

You got to be joking the 88mm flak gun was the best tank killing gun during the war. It had a much bigger calibre and was far more accurate than the 17 pounder because of how they managed the recoil. Not to mention since the flak 88 was initially designed to kill aircraft it can shoot farther than the 17 pounder.

No it was not, the 17 pounder was the best AT gun of WW2. Bigger caliber doesn't mean more armor penetration, it only effects HE and HEAT rounds. It was not more accurate then a 17 pounder using APCBC rounds, only the APDS rounds were less accurate at long range. And the FlaK 36/37 actually had a rather poor range for a AA gun.

Originally posted by (DD)Archer:

Really is that how it works? From what I remember when Allied player babies cry Relic will spoon feed them what they want. I think Relic is rather being fair this time and listen to the Axis community for once.

Evidently that is indeed how it works. Braindead wehraboos cried about the emplacements and bingo the emplacements are now useless. Braindead wehraboos are crying about the Churchills and bingo the Churchills are getting nerfed (for the second time). Braindead wehraboos cried about flamethrowers and bingo the Crock and KV-8 are getting nerfed. Braindead wehraboos cried about the Commandos and now they are getting nerfed to.

The British were more or less fine when they were released, it took strategy to beat them. But evidently that was not acceptable for braindead wehraboo apes so now the British will be unplayable after the next patch.

[Tasty x3]

What really pis ses me off is this faction thinking in this game, its always a " my faction and the other ones I don't play for stupid reasons but rage about".

At one point you should actually start playing all of the factions to get a diverse view of the balance and the different units. This is actually what made CoH 1 a lot better, if someone said he belonged to a so called Axis or Allied player community (its as stupid as it sounds) he would've probably been laughed at.


So pull that stick out of your tunnel view as s and check out everything about this game before making nonsense suggestion, complaints or unaccurate historical references that don't have anything to do with the game.
If you want a realistic game go play Man of War but don''t come back complaining that your precious Panther just got one shotted by an AT gun.

[TankinatorXD]

Originally posted by Riley:

Guess what, spoiler, the 17 pounder was the best AT gun of the war, so yeah its better. German tanks stomp allied tanks in this game, use your advantages.

Are you troling?