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Glitshy Mar 16, 2016 @ 6:52am
Ostwind vs Centaur
The ostwind sucks compared to centaur.
But it costs the same.
The centaur got better front and rear armor, same HP.
The centaur wins in a 1v1 by numbers. (higher DPS but also higher armor)
But most importantly: The accuracy.
Just due to the insanely low accuracy of the ostwind it is almost worthless against infantry compared to the centaur.
According to http://www.stat.coh2.hu/ when selecting a generic soldier with 1 target size, the ostwinds DPS is 0.69 / 1.37 on Far/Near , and the centaurs DPS is 17.35 / 28.16, just because the ostwind doesn't hit anything.
It's one of the rather rare cases the allied counterpart is much better than the german one, but probably only due to the ostwind beeing a Wehrmacht unit and not of the mighty OKW.

EDIT: One thing which the ostwind is superior in is mobility, buth max speed and acceleration is higher + the vet1 blitzkrieg makes it good at flanking AT guns.
Last edited by Glitshy; Mar 16, 2016 @ 9:00am
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Skullfumble Mar 16, 2016 @ 7:24am 
ostwind should be more accurate, that's for sure
=(e)= Lemonater47 Mar 16, 2016 @ 7:34am 
Wait the Ostwind is in this game?
Patrykblack7 Mar 16, 2016 @ 7:37am 
Well
With one bulletin you can pin as Ostwind
endlessBoogie Mar 16, 2016 @ 8:18am 
Originally posted by ☭Patrykblack7☭:
Well
With one bulletin you can pin as Ostwind
...with its frontal mg, not the maingun.

RedT3rror Mar 16, 2016 @ 8:27am 
Try using a Centaur and you will realize why it's actually better to have an Ostwind than a Centaur.

Oh wait: https://www.coh2.org/ladders/playercard/viewBoard/12/steamid/76561198036893675
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Glitshy Mar 16, 2016 @ 8:34am 
Originally posted by RedT3rror:
Try using a Centaur and you will realize why it's actually better to have an Ostwind than a Centaur.

Oh wait: https://www.coh2.org/ladders/playercard/viewBoard/12/steamid/76561198036893675

You know there are people whop only play with firends do you?
Look at my 2p AT stat, sure i play 2 out of 3 matches as axis, but when i play allies i play brits.

Oh, and how about telling what exactly makes the ostwind better, then?
Last edited by Glitshy; Mar 16, 2016 @ 8:34am
Beardedragon Mar 16, 2016 @ 8:48am 
Originally posted by Glitshy:
The ostwind sucks compared to centaur.
But it costs the same.
The centaur got better front and rear armor, same HP.
The centaur wins in a 1v1 by numbers. (higher DPS but also higher armor)
But most importantly: The accuracy.
Just due to the insanely low accuracy of the ostwind it is almost worthless against infantry compared to the centaur.
According to http://www.stat.coh2.hu/ when selecting a generic soldier with 1 target size, the ostwinds DPS is 0.69 / 1.37 on Far/Near , and the centaurs DPS is 17.35 / 28.16, just because the ostwind doesn't hit anything.
It's one of the rather rare cases the allied counterpart is much better than the german one, but probably only due to the ostwind beeing a Wehrmacht unit and not of the mighty OKW.

so what if the Ostwind is worse than the centaur? the Brits have no artillery units next to the command unit, Land mattress to deal with heavy blobs. meanwhile you sit around with your Panzerwerfer or stuka and have a lot of fun.

the centaur needs to carry more weight in this regard, the Ostwind does not.
@theweedfather Mar 16, 2016 @ 8:50am 
Originally posted by RedT3rror:
Try using a Centaur and you will realize why it's actually better to have an Ostwind than a Centaur.

Oh wait: https://www.coh2.org/ladders/playercard/viewBoard/12/steamid/76561198036893675
topkek
Glitshy Mar 16, 2016 @ 8:52am 
Originally posted by Beardedragon:
Originally posted by Glitshy:
The ostwind sucks compared to centaur.
But it costs the same.
The centaur got better front and rear armor, same HP.
The centaur wins in a 1v1 by numbers. (higher DPS but also higher armor)
But most importantly: The accuracy.
Just due to the insanely low accuracy of the ostwind it is almost worthless against infantry compared to the centaur.
According to http://www.stat.coh2.hu/ when selecting a generic soldier with 1 target size, the ostwinds DPS is 0.69 / 1.37 on Far/Near , and the centaurs DPS is 17.35 / 28.16, just because the ostwind doesn't hit anything.
It's one of the rather rare cases the allied counterpart is much better than the german one, but probably only due to the ostwind beeing a Wehrmacht unit and not of the mighty OKW.

so what if the Ostwind is worse than the centaur? the Brits have no artillery units next to the command unit, Land mattress to deal with heavy blobs. meanwhile you sit around with your Panzerwerfer or stuka and have a lot of fun.

the centaur needs to carry more weight in this regard, the Ostwind does not.

https://www.coh2.org/ladders/playercard/viewBoard/11/steamid/76561198018548615

EDIT: I'm kind of sorry to bring up the playtimes wwith a specific faction, as you got a rather good point, that sometimes units ought to be better even for the same price to balance a difference out, but as anyone else seems to pull the "you ain't got brits played!" card....
Last edited by Glitshy; Mar 16, 2016 @ 8:54am
Voyevoda Mar 16, 2016 @ 8:53am 
I remember that bug or glitch or whatever with the centuar one-shotting garrisoned infantry. Hoooly crap that was broke haha.
RedT3rror Mar 16, 2016 @ 8:56am 
Originally posted by Glitshy:
Originally posted by RedT3rror:
Try using a Centaur and you will realize why it's actually better to have an Ostwind than a Centaur.

Oh wait: https://www.coh2.org/ladders/playercard/viewBoard/12/steamid/76561198036893675

You know there are people whop only play with firends do you?
Look at my 2p AT stat, sure i play 2 out of 3 matches as axis, but when i play allies i play brits.

Oh, and how about telling what exactly makes the ostwind better, then?

25 matches as ally, much experience...
Glitshy Mar 16, 2016 @ 8:56am 
Originally posted by Red Star:
I remember that bug or glitch or whatever with the centuar one-shotting garrisoned infantry. Hoooly crap that was broke haha.

Oh, that reminds me, when i was looking at the stats of the centaur's gun, i noticed that it is one of the only units which ignores the 0,5 damage multi when infantry is in green cover, so even well placed infantry dies in seconds.
Patrykblack7 Mar 16, 2016 @ 8:57am 
One of a thing that make Ostwind better is speed another one is blitzkrieg that came
Ostwind wins in term of mobility and have higher chance to flank at guns or escape
Glitshy Mar 16, 2016 @ 8:58am 
Originally posted by RedT3rror:
Originally posted by Glitshy:

You know there are people whop only play with firends do you?
Look at my 2p AT stat, sure i play 2 out of 3 matches as axis, but when i play allies i play brits.

Oh, and how about telling what exactly makes the ostwind better, then?

25 matches as ally, much experience...

And 42 as axis in this particular case. I didn't say i was a highly experienced player (or a good one or something), but i still think that thats enough experience to know that the centaur is better.

Originally posted by Glitshy:
Oh, and how about telling what exactly makes the ostwind better, then?
Glitshy Mar 16, 2016 @ 8:58am 
Originally posted by ☭Patrykblack7☭:
One of a thing that make Ostwind better is speed another one is blitzkrieg that came
Ostwind wins in term of mobility and have higher chance to flank at guns or escape

True, forgot to mention this, going to add it to the OP.
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