Expert AI troops massive spam

[LordAtrox]

was there a change to the ai in the last week? because since this week the expert ai seems to have unlimitet ressources. the just spam troops, way more then before. if you come past 10 minutes the attack you constantly with tanks without end. and also they seem to have way more troops on the field, they just crush you because they bloob you with 4-5 tanks, infantry an mortars. i lost this week more games, than in the rest of this year.
has anyone else experienced such issues with overhelming ai bloobs recently? would like to know. thank you.

[V0lcanF1re]

expert Ai cheat resources, still beat able

[Le Negev]

Nothing happend, it was always like this.

[COMP DBD 1V1]

the ai hasnt changed at all
theyve always had a resource multiplier so they can get things quicker than you can
its just hard AI with cheats, nothing special

[Xaphnir]

That's how expert AI always has been. Just spamming tanks out at you and endlessly barraging you with multiple mortars and artillery. It's why I don't play it; while I can handle it, it's just not fun to be dealing with such an endless stream. And every game I've played on expert at least one of my teammates ragequit.

Originally posted by misharvey <intel>:

its just hard AI with cheats, nothing special

Hard gets resource cheats, too, though not as much, and expert does play better.

[LambRam]

To my knowledge theres a variety of mods on the workshop which make the AI more intelligent rather than simply giving em extra resources, those might be your cup of tea instead of Coh2's solution

[COMP DBD 1V1]

Originally posted by Xaphnir:

That's how expert AI always has been. Just spamming tanks out at you and endlessly barraging you with multiple mortars and artillery. It's why I don't play it; while I can handle it, it's just not fun to be dealing with such an endless stream. And every game I've played on expert at least one of my teammates ragequit.

Originally posted by misharvey <intel>:

its just hard AI with cheats, nothing special

Hard gets resource cheats, too, though not as much, and expert does play better.

i do not believe the AI logic is changed from hard to expert
at best you could say the RNG for chance of a unit having instant reactions (vs him not responding at all) for things like retreating, moving out of nades or throwing a nade is slightly better on expert but the decision making is identical

[Xaphnir]

Originally posted by misharvey <intel>:

at best you could say the RNG for chance of a unit having instant reactions (vs him not responding at all) for things like retreating, moving out of nades or throwing a nade is slightly better on expert but the decision making is identical

Those things do count as the AI playing better, though.

You are right about the decision making, though. Expert will still throw tanks away into a wall of AT that it knows is there.

[WhispersOfTheWind]

If you hold out for long enough you just might turn the tables on them and regardless of how much spam they produce, you should technically be able to beat the enemy with your veteran units, alas some players never get to that stage.

[Zycat]

Originally posted by misharvey <intel>:

i do not believe the AI logic is changed from hard to expert
at best you could say the RNG for chance of a unit having instant reactions (vs him not responding at all) for things like retreating, moving out of nades or throwing a nade is slightly better on expert but the decision making is identical

A.I logic and builds are unchanged from Easy to Expert. They just have different resources (yes Easy has a resource debuff), different reaction "delay" values, and hard caps on army size and points captured on Easy and Standard.

It's...laziness honestly, since it is definitely capable of doing separate builds for each difficulties.

Originally posted by LambRam:

To my knowledge theres a variety of mods on the workshop which make the AI more intelligent rather than simply giving em extra resources, those might be your cup of tea instead of Coh2's solution

My mod perhaps? *wink*

[Xaphnir]

Originally posted by HellsWind:

If you hold out for long enough you just might turn the tables on them and regardless of how much spam they produce, you should technically be able to beat the enemy with your veteran units, alas some players never get to that stage.

From my experience, you never get more than a few seconds at time to rest, heal, replenish or repair your units. You're subjected to a constant barrage of mortars and other artillery (and remember AI can see through fog of war) while said mortars and artillery are backed up by multiple MGs and AT guns. And once they get tanks they're producing them about one per minute. That's too much to turn the tables on, no matter how much veterancy you get.

You can't push against that. All you can do is desperately hold your position long enough to win via points.

[Xia_TW]

1.9K hours 4v4 PvE Axis player is here.
Expert have (almost) double MP and more fuel, that's why they will spam evey unit as they can. they also have something like map cheat so they will easily barrage or flank you.
If you want to win easier, remember to capture at least 2/3 pointflags so you will have equal fuel or more fuel that will make you have a huge adventage, also you need to know the behavior of each Faction (like Brits will start SIM City at 3 mins, USF will have mortar earlier, SoV will have more infantary and Light Vehicles) so you can have a better counter, if you're playing 4v4, each map will have different behavior of their attack direction, never forget to support your teammates.