PAK40 Anti tank - How to use it?

[Vertigo!]

I spent some time playing this game., but. i can´t get good use of PAK40.,
in some point the combo Panzerfaust + PAK40 works properly, Teller+PAK40 is good also
I think the best combo is Riegel Mine + PAK40 Is deadly., that tank is dead.
but without any another assistance can shot one or two times before been Wrecked or evaded.

Any tips or another ways to use it? , This thing is the only thing that can save you from a T-34 rush or stuart rush without getting dry of ammo. and time to time ., when the fuel control fails.,
is the only thing that you got to kill tanks without ammo

is a very useful and efficiente piece of equipment.
but i cannot dominate his use. I Mainly use in a defensive way., use in an offesive always end in a dead cannon.


Thanks!

[ShodaN]

Originally posted by Vertigo:

I spent some time playing this game., but. i can´t get good use of PAK40.,
in some point the combo Panzerfaust + PAK40 works properly, Teller+PAK40 is good also
I think the best combo is Riegel Mine + PAK40 Is deadly., that tank is dead.
but without any another assistance can shot one or two times before been Wrecked or evaded.

That's how it's supposed to be. Stressing the importance of combined arms was the goal in many regards. No AT gun can reliably handle vehicles on its own.

[Vertigo!]

Originally posted by DarTH ShodaN:

Originally posted by Vertigo:

I spent some time playing this game., but. i can´t get good use of PAK40.,
in some point the combo Panzerfaust + PAK40 works properly, Teller+PAK40 is good also
I think the best combo is Riegel Mine + PAK40 Is deadly., that tank is dead.
but without any another assistance can shot one or two times before been Wrecked or evaded.

That's how it's supposed to be. Stressing the importance of combined arms was the goal in many regards. No AT gun can reliably handle vehicles on its own.

Ok., so my problem is how take most adventage from this thing in the field., Recon is a must? so the cannon can await tank presence in front of him?. (Trying to thinking about it).

[Mega Michael]

Point it at the badies and go pew pew

[ShodaN]

Originally posted by Vertigo:

Ok., so my problem is how take most adventage from this thing in the field., Recon is a must? so the cannon can await tank presence in front of him?. (Trying to thinking about it).

Recon is definitly a must. Not only would you miss out on almost half the range it has (60 max range vs 35 outer sight radius), but the way the firing cone is shaped means you miss out on even more coverage as it gets wider the further away you go.

Keep the area it covers visible as much as possible and position your AT guns well. That means they should cover an area where enemy vehicles will move around alot or where you anticipate them to move with as little ways left to evade as possible. Use the map features to your advantage.

It's more about controlling space, then actively attacking something. For the most part at least. If you combine the coverage of your AT guns and the radius of your AT snare units, you can restrict enemy vehicle movement a lot.

The other part of using AT guns would be offensively, if you have a position that needs to be broken with enemy vehicles around. Then you try essentially the same, by moving your AT guns up to cover the ground you are trying to take and to restrict enemy vehicle movement/escape routes. But of course you'll have to make sure to sufficiently deal with or secure yourself against threats to your AT guns first.

[AxisInfantryAreOp]

Originally posted by Vertigo:

I spent some time playing this game., but. i can´t get good use of PAK40.,
in some point the combo Panzerfaust + PAK40 works properly, Teller+PAK40 is good also
I think the best combo is Riegel Mine + PAK40 Is deadly., that tank is dead.
but without any another assistance can shot one or two times before been Wrecked or evaded.

Any tips or another ways to use it? , This thing is the only thing that can save you from a T-34 rush or stuart rush without getting dry of ammo. and time to time ., when the fuel control fails.,
is the only thing that you got to kill tanks without ammo

is a very useful and efficiente piece of equipment.
but i cannot dominate his use. I Mainly use in a defensive way., use in an offesive always end in a dead cannon.


Thanks!

Lol...you should see the soviet zis field gun
This thing shoots only once and with enough luck this shot can actually hit and pen the tank

[Démogorgon]

The PSK40 is ♥♥♥♥ comparate to the russian AT. It can't kill inf. and it can't make an artillery.

Germany is ♥♥♥♥ cause too nerfed since the begin of CoH2 that's why I don't play this game anymore.

[Mega Michael]

Originally posted by Pickelhaube99:

The PSK40 is ♥♥♥♥ comparate to the russian AT. It can't kill inf. and it can't make an artillery.

Germany is ♥♥♥♥ cause too nerfed since the begin of CoH2 that's why I don't play this game anymore.

German at does more damage than soviet at noob

[AxisInfantryAreOp]

Originally posted by Peakus:

Originally posted by Pickelhaube99:

The PSK40 is ♥♥♥♥ comparate to the russian AT. It can't kill inf. and it can't make an artillery.

Germany is ♥♥♥♥ cause too nerfed since the begin of CoH2 that's why I don't play this game anymore.

German at does more damage than soviet at noob

You mean dps right?

[Mega Michael]

Originally posted by 3rd Guard Army:

Originally posted by Peakus:

German at does more damage than soviet at noob

You mean dps right?

Not sure about per second, but I know the German at shots do slightly more than soviet

[ShodaN]

Originally posted by Peakus:

Originally posted by 3rd Guard Army:

You mean dps right?

Not sure about per second, but I know the German at shots do slightly more than soviet

Just like the thing with PTRS sniping someone will propably shout at you for thinking that again. :P
Regular AT gun damage is 160 throughout.

Maybe you meant penetration. The Pak40 has 200, the Zis-3 has 190.

[Mega Michael]

Originally posted by DarTH ShodaN:

Originally posted by Peakus:

Not sure about per second, but I know the German at shots do slightly more than soviet

Just like the thing with PTRS sniping someone will propably shout at you for thinking that again. :P
Regular AT gun damage is 160 throughout.

Maybe you meant penetration. The Pak40 has 200, the Zis-3 has 190.

Yes I totally meant pen and not damage, what kind of noob woudlent know that, hahah... haha.. ha

[AxisInfantryAreOp]

Originally posted by Peakus:

Originally posted by 3rd Guard Army:

You mean dps right?

Not sure about per second, but I know the German at shots do slightly more than soviet

Ah no...all AT units in the game either do 160 damage or 200 or 320
AT guns all factions are 160 except the soviet m42 45mm AT which does less damage

[ShodaN]

Btw dps isn't really all that important on AT guns. A properly positioned and supported AT gun will do its job regardless. It's supposed to control space and punish an enemy moving into areas, that you properly prepared for tanks and other vehicles.

Most of the time you wont get a kill, but it will be enough of a threat to control the battle. That is the benefit you'll have from it for most of the match. Making the moments where you can really get a kill by outplaying the enemy or getting them to misjudge a situation is the icing on the cake.

[AxisInfantryAreOp]

Originally posted by DarTH ShodaN:

Btw dps isn't really all that important on AT guns. A properly positioned and supported AT gun will do its job regardless. It's supposed to control space and punish an enemy moving into areas, that you properly prepared for tanks and other vehicles.

Most of the time you wont get a kill, but it will be enough of a threat to control the battle. That is the benefit you'll have from it for most of the match. Making the moments where you can really get a kill by outplaying the enemy or getting them to misjudge a situation is the icing on the cake.

But you cant deny that dual pak40s can kill any medium 80% of the time before it retreats

[ShodaN]

Originally posted by 3rd Guard Army:

But you cant deny that dual pak40s can kill any medium 80% of the time before it retreats

Which leave two questions:
1) Why would you blindly run into 2 Paks for long enough exposure?
2) Why have both AT guns in the exact same spot leaving the rest wide open?