How do i evade and counter the Katyusha and Riflemen spam?

[Hayro]

It's getting problematic lately. I don't know how do i counter it since even i destroyed their 5-7 Katyushas, they just build and spam again. and Evading off-map artillery was easier back then but now thing are really got worse even i hold the munition points.

As for riflemen and other blobs, my counter is Stupa but its comes on very late game. I'm currently trying to fight fire with fire via Ostruppen blobs and putting them into cover. Suprisingly it's effective at some point but then Katyushas and Land Mattress decimate everything.

So what can i do in order to counter these?
Thanks in advance.

[iBN Demashq™ ☪]

for the Katyusha idk how to avoid it, its spread of barrage and range is so good so you have two choices: Retreat when you hear the screeching sound , or take it like a champ

for the rifleman blob, best thing to do is spam mainline infantry yourself to survive until you get stuka, then try to wipe his blob before he wipes yours..

[germ]

Since the removal of smoke from riflemen, i find it easier to counter their blobs as OKW.

- An HMG can help at any time of the game: MG34 may suck, but it gets the job done.
- Luches can be game changing if you're able to get one out early enough, all while being aware of which building USF is going
- Though i don't see it often, flak half track is very useful, though be wary of AT guns
- Flame nades may not be the best option, but predicting them can be useful as the damage stacks up
- Depending on which commander you have, the grenade spam can be very useful against any blob on volk

Considering all of that (i'm sure there's more), be wary of USF manpower costs,like if s/he's focusing manpower on the blob while not getting another building or building any AT, or how any casuality for their blob builds up manpower losses.


For Katyushas, this may sound stupid, but as Osteer, i usually run around points with a panzershrek squad destroying caches if i control all the fuel points which would usually prevent the spam of vehicles.

Though as i do for all factions, i hide a vehicle in the back near the enemy's flank and only come out when a katyusha fires. For Osteer a scout car can suffice, while for OKW, i find it that a volk can just faust it and easily destroy it with rifles/stgs.

[Midare-Saki]

the one time they had 4 katyusha 3 priests 4 immobile arty 3 land matresses. and they still had enough popcap to keep most the stars for most of the time, if they arent paying attention you can probably paradrop a unit or something but counterbombing doesnt seem to do anything much.

[ShodaN]

Originally posted by Hayro:

So what can i do in order to counter these?
Thanks in advance.

Such masses means it's a large teamgame, right? Those always devolve into artillery and spam fests unless you coordinate with your mates. Tactics and timings don't mean ♥♥♥♥ in those modes unless you manage to get your entire team to pull them off.

So how do you avoid and counter the kind of stuff you list? Team coordination. Without that you might as well just do the same and sit on your ass and bombard eachother with indirect fire, rolling the dice.

[robfilrhijar]

Most ppl just swing left or right when they hear the incoming barrages.however i think one of the worst things you can do is retreat back into the barrage, better just keep moving till its over.Having said that if a katy is very close to you when it unloads you have very little option but to retreat cause its deadly when used like that.

[iBN Demashq™ ☪]

Originally posted by Colt:

Most ppl just swing left or right when they hear the incoming barrages.however i think one of the worst things you can do is retreat back into the barrage, better just keep moving till its over.Having said that if a katy is very close to you when it unloads you have very little option but to retreat cause its deadly when used like that.

hmm interesting i always choose to retreat when katyusha barage lands on my men but almost always they still run into the barrage and get wiped, am gonna try your suggestion of not retreating and see how that works