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Relic a disgrace!
Dont offer online play, if you can't make it work.
Dont do patches, if you dont have players test them...and i mean others than axis players!
Its a disgrace, for us who have paid full price for this game, and dont play axis.
that last patch gotta be rolled back ASAP! Its a complete and utter joke.
you keep favoring axis players...since coh1....its nothing new. Im really angry.
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Originally posted by Killer:):
Originally posted by DirtyDigs:
The Axis are are the bad guys, but not cool bad guys that players usually want to play. They lost the war and had genocidal maniacs at the political head and all over the army as well. Rarely if ever has an army faced such disgrace in defeat as the wehrmacht did in ww2.

How active would the online gameplay be if the the werhmacht didn't have the coolest tanks, the best gear, the easiest to implement strategies? Who would be lining up to play as a losing nazi, Im sorry wermahct, faction if they switched the balance?

If the main balance was stop the allies before they bring out all the big guns that you cannot stop....well I doubt many people would be up for that.

It makes allied players really really want to win, try harder and find a way to beat those damn nazis, Im sorry wehrmacht soldiers.

It's a good marketing strategy. Ignoring this is being willfully ignorant. Anyone who is willfully ignorant is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ idiot.

What are you talking about lmao. The game developers don't balance the game to make Germans better than Allies, they try to make it fair while trying to keep the game somewhat historically accurate.

LMAO....historical accurate?????????? That's rich!
US superiority in production?
Soviet superiority in manpower?
Birt superiority in aa and art?
Game is sat in the later stages of the war, where there were practically no luftwaffe left.
Go read some history wiseguy.
Spale (Banned) Jul 2, 2019 @ 3:44am 
Originally posted by DirtyDigs:
The Axis are are the bad guys, but not cool bad guys that players usually want to play. They lost the war and had genocidal maniacs at the political head and all over the army as well. Rarely if ever has an army faced such disgrace in defeat as the wehrmacht did in ww2.

I don't know, as a European i see the Axis as good guys and allies as greedy criminals and deeply enjoy defeating them. Everyone haves their own opinion.



Originally posted by DirtyDigs:
How active would the online gameplay be if the the werhmacht didn't have the coolest tanks, the best gear, the easiest to implement strategies? Who would be lining up to play as a losing nazi, Im sorry wermahct, faction if they switched the balance?

I mean there are a ton of single/multi player WW2 games that sold millions of copies where the main objective is to defeat the German Third Reich forces while censoring everything related to "Nazis" and tons of people enjoyed them including me.


Originally posted by DirtyDigs:

If the main balance was stop the allies before they bring out all the big guns that you cannot stop....well I doubt many people would be up for that.

I know about big thicc bois, but what "bih guns" are you referring to exactly?



Originally posted by DirtyDigs:

It makes allied players really really want to win, try harder and find a way to beat those damn nazis, Im sorry wehrmacht soldiers.

It's a good marketing strategy. Ignoring this is being willfully ignorant. Anyone who is willfully ignorant is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ idiot.

https://youtu.be/eDzu8liD3BU

Originally posted by DirtyDigs:
The Axis are are the bad guys, but not cool bad guys that players usually want to play. They lost the war and had genocidal maniacs at the political head and all over the army as well. Rarely if ever has an army faced such disgrace in defeat as the wehrmacht did in ww2.

How active would the online gameplay be if the the werhmacht didn't have the coolest tanks, the best gear, the easiest to implement strategies? Who would be lining up to play as a losing nazi, Im sorry wermahct, faction if they switched the balance?

If the main balance was stop the allies before they bring out all the big guns that you cannot stop....well I doubt many people would be up for that.

It makes allied players really really want to win, try harder and find a way to beat those damn nazis, Im sorry wehrmacht soldiers.

It's a good marketing strategy. Ignoring this is being willfully ignorant. Anyone who is willfully ignorant is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ idiot.
there's more people larping as axis than any other faction on this game, and in any ww2 game if you ever notice, axis are definitely something people want to play as they have both a certain novelty and unexplored factor when it comes to people who associate with faction aesthetics, though you people who load up a US game and feel like you're some hero landing on normandy are the minority i'll inform you, most people know it's a game and treat is as such and play whatever they find fun mechanically, not aesthetically
Spale (Banned) Jul 2, 2019 @ 4:06am 
Originally posted by rex:
though you people who load up a US game and feel like you're some hero landing on normandy

https://youtu.be/uFMSw_IvmX4
Originally posted by rex:
Originally posted by DirtyDigs:
The Axis are are the bad guys, but not cool bad guys that players usually want to play. They lost the war and had genocidal maniacs at the political head and all over the army as well. Rarely if ever has an army faced such disgrace in defeat as the wehrmacht did in ww2.

How active would the online gameplay be if the the werhmacht didn't have the coolest tanks, the best gear, the easiest to implement strategies? Who would be lining up to play as a losing nazi, Im sorry wermahct, faction if they switched the balance?

If the main balance was stop the allies before they bring out all the big guns that you cannot stop....well I doubt many people would be up for that.

It makes allied players really really want to win, try harder and find a way to beat those damn nazis, Im sorry wehrmacht soldiers.

It's a good marketing strategy. Ignoring this is being willfully ignorant. Anyone who is willfully ignorant is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ idiot.
there's more people larping as axis than any other faction on this game, and in any ww2 game if you ever notice, axis are definitely something people want to play as they have both a certain novelty and unexplored factor when it comes to people who associate with faction aesthetics, though you people who load up a US game and feel like you're some hero landing on normandy are the minority i'll inform you, most people know it's a game and treat is as such and play whatever they find fun mechanically, not aesthetically

How do you explain the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥S and HITLERS then? I think it's scary so much you see in game of that + usernames in the same line?
StalinTheStarver Jul 2, 2019 @ 4:55am 
Originally posted by Tom Firefly:
Originally posted by Killer:):

What are you talking about lmao. The game developers don't balance the game to make Germans better than Allies, they try to make it fair while trying to keep the game somewhat historically accurate.

LMAO....historical accurate?????????? That's rich!
US superiority in production?
Soviet superiority in manpower?
Birt superiority in aa and art?
Game is sat in the later stages of the war, where there were practically no luftwaffe left.
Go read some history wiseguy.

I did say "somewhat historically accurate'' for a reason. If it were historically accurate then Allies would be unstoppable and the game would be unplayable. Don't know whats so hard to understand.
Originally posted by ✠ Succ ma spicy Memes:
Originally posted by rex:
though you people who load up a US game and feel like you're some hero landing on normandy

https://youtu.be/uFMSw_IvmX4

exactly....young Americans, Brits, Canadians, Poles, ect who gave their young lifes for others freedom. That's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ heroes - LETS WE FORGET!!
Originally posted by Killer:):
Originally posted by Tom Firefly:

LMAO....historical accurate?????????? That's rich!
US superiority in production?
Soviet superiority in manpower?
Birt superiority in aa and art?
Game is sat in the later stages of the war, where there were practically no luftwaffe left.
Go read some history wiseguy.

I did say "somewhat historically accurate'' for a reason. If it were historically accurate then Allies would be unstoppable and the game would be unplayable. Don't know whats so hard to understand.
Now (and most of coh history) it is axis who are unstoppable - makes the game totally unrealistic, so its not even close to be SOMEWHAT HISTORICALLY ACCURATE...
StalinTheStarver Jul 2, 2019 @ 5:05am 
Originally posted by Tom Firefly:
Originally posted by Killer:):

I did say "somewhat historically accurate'' for a reason. If it were historically accurate then Allies would be unstoppable and the game would be unplayable. Don't know whats so hard to understand.
Now (and most of coh history) it is axis who are unstoppable - makes the game totally unrealistic, so its not even close to be SOMEWHAT HISTORICALLY ACCURATE...

Even after the new patch I still prefer to play Soviets over Wehrmacht. In my opinion some Axis units are a little overpowered but if you are a better player then you will still win the match.
Originally posted by Tom Firefly:
Faces of War, Men At War,
Own them, and no, thank you.

I have better things to do than fight with clunky interface in games overladen with necessary micromanagement. As is, CoH2 is already pushing my capacity for it.

Aside from the fact that last time I tried Men of War, there were still unresolved big bugs in the game, and it's a trend I noticed with a lot of Russian-speaking developers (not all - Heliborne, as an example, is an outstanding exception to it).

Originally posted by Tom Firefly:
Orders Of Battle
?!

That's a turn-based one. Not exactly comparable to CoH, wouldn't you say?

I'll stick with Close Combat for my hardkewr "historical" experience, thank you.
Almost Perfect Jul 2, 2019 @ 5:25am 
Originally posted by Tom Firefly:

How do you explain the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥S and HITLERS then? I think it's scary so much you see in game of that + usernames in the same line?

What sort of percentage of the population play COH2? And how many of that tiny percentage are actually genuine Neo-Nazis? I'm not pretending they don't exist but I'm not alarmed at all by their existence.
Originally posted by DirtyDigs:
If the main balance was stop the allies before they bring out all the big guns that you cannot stop....well I doubt many people would be up for that.
I'm not sure in what parallel world you live in, but Western Allies did not have "big guns."

Even the Pershing, already in game, barely saw any action in the war (and there were just a bunch of them around), but at least that's consistent with the use of Elephant, King Tigers, and other rare weapon platforms in the Axis lineup.

Soviets were the ones who did have "big guns," and they also have them accessible in the game (though sometimes hidden by the microstransaction paywall). While I'm never going not to be amused by the outright parody of representation of combat engagement in CoH2 (tanks bouncing from shells fired at point-blank range), Relic, for better or for worse, balanced the factions around what they thought was appropriate based on historical performance of those weapons first, and then nerfing/buffing them as necessary to allow a reasonable GAME balance.

And yes, this includes making stupid faction-design decisions like making Soviets human-wave Zerg faction. This got toned down a LOT, but go into in-game achievements and look at those "lose three times as many units as you kill and win" awards. Somebody thought this was a good idea, and then made units that did not even support this kind of resource waste in the first place.

I suspect this was done for no other reason than to reinforce the herpaderp "grimdark" tone that is so overbearing in the Soviet campaign I couldn't stomach more than five or so missions of it. ♥♥♥♥ belongs in W40k universe, where it's a really dark joke to be enjoyed, not in a quasi-historical game from a company that just treated Wehrmacht in white gloves in its previous title, A military formation which, contrary to current revisionism going on in Germany about how they were just misguided patriots, has its own extensive record of hideous war atrocities all over the eastern part of European theater. But since they did it to the untermenschen, and treated the western civilian populations incomparably better, that doesn't matter, let's leave all criticism - valid or not - to filthy Slavs in the Soviet army.

If you want to complain about Axis bias, this is a valid point you can make. Not some game-design-driven balance of weapon performance that, for better or for worse, is necessary to make the game playable whichever faction you pick.

You must be a really new player, because if had experienced all the changes over the years you'd notice the trend of any over-performing unit, Axis or Allied, getting nerfed in some patch once the imbalance became noticeable.

When all is done and said, CoH2 is a game. It's supposed to be fun for the player regardless of which faction they play, and trust me - the game balance is incomparably better now than it had been on release.

Hell, if it helps, think of CoH2 as weapon porn fanfic. Because ultimately that's what it is, with pretty graphics thrown on top. And, like it or not, Nazi Germany had a lot of cool toys in that regard.

Though I'm not going to defend people running around with Nazi-Germany oriented nicknames, because trolling or not, that's just beyond bad taste even in my pretty lax estimate.
Last edited by 76561188078797539; Jul 2, 2019 @ 5:30am
Originally posted by Killer:):
Originally posted by Tom Firefly:
Now (and most of coh history) it is axis who are unstoppable - makes the game totally unrealistic, so its not even close to be SOMEWHAT HISTORICALLY ACCURATE...

Even after the new patch I still prefer to play Soviets over Wehrmacht. In my opinion some Axis units are a little overpowered but if you are a better player then you will still win the match.
Hear what youre saying...but were not all pro, and this game or any other game, isnt made for pros only - if the balance is right, the best players wins, fair enough
Originally posted by $team Freak $avant:
Originally posted by Tom Firefly:

How do you explain the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥S and HITLERS then? I think it's scary so much you see in game of that + usernames in the same line?

What sort of percentage of the population play COH2? And how many of that tiny percentage are actually genuine Neo-Nazis? I'm not pretending they don't exist but I'm not alarmed at all by their existence.
No - but i dont see them anywhere else, because COH its the only game that favor them, and they should not be allowed to do their nazi ♥♥♥♥♥ - maybe if theres a coh3, the online part should only be for aliied players, problem sloved.
Originally posted by Ban1st:
for axis!
for fatherland!
First of all, "Axis" was not just Germany, you numbskull At least get the nomenclature straight.

Secondly, if we're comparing atrocities, mine's longer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DVSyv3sHOs
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