German tanks disgustingly overpowered.

[Deems]

Is there an excuse for this?

[A Table]

High price? Late game? Allowing them to have both fuel?

Yeah, a large part depends on how well the allies can deny fuel to the axis.

[Deems]

But how do you counter them in a fire fight? Feels like it takes 2 allies tanks to get a single german one. And that is even before the "Konigstiger" ._.

[STALKER ★★★]

STUG is the only one overperforming IMO, too cheap, has great AT gun and weak spot is disgustingly strong, and when you combine this with a spotting scope, jesus christ.

STUG can easily kill almost every Tank destroy ingame on 1v1 situations. Yes you might argue "It has no turret" like C'mon, for a tank without turret, it moves pretty damn fast.

Rest are easy to kill, like panther, ostwind, panzer 4. etc. You just gotta build mines, AT gun at right places, micro tank destroyers right, etc.

[CatMeowMeow]

Originally posted by ◣╬◢ STALKER:

STUG is the only one overperforming IMO, too cheap, has great AT gun and weak spot is disgustingly strong, and when you combine this with a spotting scope, jesus christ.

STUG can easily kill almost every Tank destroy ingame on 1v1 situations. Yes you might argue "It has no turret" like C'mon, for a tank without turret, it moves pretty damn fast.

Rest are easy to kill, like panther, ostwind, panzer 4. etc. You just gotta build mines, AT gun at right places, micro tank destroyers right, etc.

Stug Spam is the new meta now. Every game I see Stug Spam.

But it can be counter by Zooks or AT guns. Stug isn't that good against Infantry.

[STALKER ★★★]

True that but when you have zooks or AT guns and they haveGrens/snipers infront of Stugs, your Anti-Tank infantry can't do much. Or when you try getting Anti-infantry tank like centaur or T70 to kill those grens = GG

your only hope is arty

[Exarch_Alpha]

Originally posted by Deems:

Is there an excuse for this?

Go get that +40 win streak then

[Butz]

History channel's top 10 tanks of the war

[COMP DBD 1V1]

stug e is so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ broken, no excuse for this to be in its current state

stug 3 spam is too viable as well, shuts down any sort of vehicle play

all tanks should not be able to just reverse full speed and disengage, axis tanks are even more broken with smoke blitz to guarentee an easy escape

panther frontal armor is just insane, why is it allowed to 1v1 99% of allied tanks without even breaking a sweat, at guns bounce off it like crazy, dedicated "tank destroyers" like su 85 and firefly STILL get bounced off a panther, meanwhile panther pens anything like swiss cheese


allies have nothing in their arsenal to compete with axis super tanks, kt, sturm, tiger ace, jagd, elefant, command panther

you need at gun walls supported by anti tank infantry as well as at least 3-4x the amount of tanks axis has to kill one super tank

anything that even comes close gets nerfed into uselessness (isu152, churchills)

[Davis 🗡]

these "german tanks too OP" should try out to actually play the nazis... I have more games on soviets than ostheer and I can say I hardly had any problems against panthers with their anti tank capabilities (guards with button/t34-85s/su-85s) panthers are not op, the tank ally tank destroyers can destroy them easy as ♥♥♥♥ if they are managed properly and a panther will miss a good amount of its shots on the move so it can't chase tanks either really. SU-85s, jacksons, sherman fireflys(with or without the tulip rockets), comets will mostly penetrate them from a far distance... and can destroy them easy, while at the same time ostheer really doesnt have ANY stock dedicated tank destroyer available except for panther which is not even that good except for its front armour, if panther gets a nerf, ostheer won't be playable late game anymore. What really deserves a nerf is comets...

[Butz]

Originally posted by Davis:

these "german tanks too OP" should try out to actually play the nazis...
panthers are not op, the tank ally tank destroyers can destroy them easy as ♥♥♥♥ if they are managed properly and a panther will miss a good amount of its shots on the move so it can't chase tanks either really. SU-85s, jacksons, sherman fireflys(with or without the tulip rockets), comets will mostly penetrate them from a far distance... and can destroy them easy, while at the same time ostheer really doesnt have ANY stock dedicated tank destroyer available except for panther which is not even that good except for its front armour, if panther gets a nerf, ostheer won't be playable late game anymore. What really deserves a nerf is comets...

You are bad at video games

[Davis 🗡]

no, you're bad if you can't counter panthers....

[Butz]

Originally posted by Davis:

no, you're bad if you can't counter panthers....

No, I'm saying you're bad because you can't deal with comets. I never said panthers were any problem.

[Davis 🗡]

I didn't say that I can't deal with comets either, du mba ss, they are just much better than panthers, that is comet's AI + AT capability and their formula f-1 speed taken together.

[Butz]

Originally posted by Davis:

I didn't say that I can't deal with comets either, du mba ss, they are just much better than panthers, comet's AI + AT capability taken together.

If you can deal with them, why do they need a nerf then?

[Makka]

The cost of these tanks is never taken into account with this. Yes your sherman cannot go toe to toe with a 260 fuel kingtiger. I am sorry you find this unfair. But if you let them get that much fuel, its on you.