(Rant) AT guns won't turn when fired upon?!

[HerrDave]

I kept trying to play this game because I refuse to believe that CoH2 isn't a worthy successor to CoH 1, but ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ this is annoying.

I keep reading how AT guns such as the mighty Pak and mines are the unrivaled counter to tanks, but this is silly.

I am used to Men of War: Assault squad and CoH 1, where you place an AT gun on the ground and point it in a direction - if something moves out of its cone of fire it'll turn and fire.

Not in this game :D

Unless I am staring at it as it happens, this cute little Pak is more than happy to sit there and DIE because I wasn't babysitting it.

A great man once said-- "Nein, nein, nein, nein, nein!"
and
A lesser man like myself would agree with him on the matter!

A single normal AI-controlled T34 was able to scoot through and around my absurdly narrow cone of fire and blow up two Pak guns, which (to me) kind of sealed the match.

(I am well aware I am terrible at the game and have like 0.001 hours)

Thoughts gentlemen?

[TravelerTraveler]

dead game

[CursedPanther]

Originally posted by HerrDave:

(I am well aware I am terrible at the game and have like 0.001 hours)

Play more?

[Inept]

Right click on the tank when the AT gun is selected, it will follow it, just be sure not to kep following it behind lines....

[A Table]

L2p.

[CatMeowMeow]

There's a problem with autofacing that

First you put your M3 Scout car to bait them into turning.
It's fast speed will force the AT gun to turn forever
Then your tank army can finish the AT gun.

That's why it's a dilemma

[Whitewuffy]

The guns are "a counter" but not "the counter". I can't actually think of anything in the game that would qualify as "the counter" to any one thing, as they always have some kind of weakness against even their intended targets.

The AT guns need to be backed up with something mobile, like infantry with panzershrecks or an anti-tank vehicle, or a machine gun to cover it from infantry attacks, so on and so forth.

If something happened to you in-game, take a look at your unit roster and figure out what you can invest in next time, to defend against such a scenario, or even change up your tactics a little.

[STALKER ★★★]

You only have 9 hours and you're already ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥?

Originally posted by A table:

L2p.

[HerrDave]

Originally posted by Whitewuffy:

The guns are "a counter" but not "the counter". I can't actually think of anything in the game that would qualify as "the counter" to any one thing, as they always have some kind of weakness against even their intended targets.

The AT guns need to be backed up with something mobile, like infantry with panzershrecks or an anti-tank vehicle, or a machine gun to cover it from infantry attacks, so on and so forth.

If something happened to you in-game, take a look at your unit roster and figure out what you can invest in next time, to defend against such a scenario, or even change up your tactics a little.

Many thanks for the tip, I'm going to give your suggestions a test tomorrow.

Originally posted by ◣╬◢ STALKER:

You only have 9 hours and you're already ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥?

Originally posted by A table:

L2p.

I am a renowned complainer about mechanics I find distasteful.

Of course I don't have a lot of hours in this game, I've only recently decided to give it another chance after a rather poor experience what with the transition from CoH 1 to this.

I understand why you'd talk down to me and say l2p, it is rather gratifying and is a clever way to dodge being helpful or offering your own opinion on the mechanic.

[CatMeowMeow]

Originally posted by HerrDave:

I am a renowned complainer about mechanics I find distasteful.

Originally posted by CatMeowMeow:

There's a problem with autofacing that

First you put your M3 Scout car to bait them into turning.
It's fast speed will force the AT gun to turn forever
Then your tank army can finish the AT gun.

That's why it's a dilemma

[HerrDave]

Originally posted by CatMeowMeow:

Originally posted by HerrDave:

I am a renowned complainer about mechanics I find distasteful.

Originally posted by CatMeowMeow:

There's a problem with autofacing that

First you put your M3 Scout car to bait them into turning.
It's fast speed will force the AT gun to turn forever
Then your tank army can finish the AT gun.

That's why it's a dilemma

A valid and reasonable point, but some action on the part of the AT gun rather than no action at all is better says I.

Still though, you are right - it can be abused like that, you are right.

My flimsy counter is as follows - in an actual battle, wouldn't an AT crew turn and fire if being fired upon outside of their cone of fire and were not distractionary (probably not a word) tactics used during the war?

At any rate, you make a good point and I appreciate you pointing it out.

[CatMeowMeow]

Originally posted by HerrDave:

Originally posted by CatMeowMeow:

A valid and reasonable point, but some action on the part of the AT gun rather than no action at all is better says I.

Still though, you are right - it can be abused like that, you are right.

My flimsy counter is as follows - in an actual battle, wouldn't an AT crew turn and fire if being fired upon outside of their cone of fire and were not distractionary (probably not a word) tactics used during the war?

At any rate, you make a good point and I appreciate you pointing it out.

There are a lot of explaning for this
1. the loader and gunner think another 2 persons will be someone guarding them outside the cone

2. It's a game.
If it's like real life
AT gun would have range of like 1 Km but in game it's just about 50 meters
Tank would wreck AT gun with a cannon because of it's large size but instead attack crew.
AT gun couldn't be push by 2 person at the same speed of infantry running
They also could not carry shells without truck or halftracks
They would also have at gun as a cover but no. it's just a thin air
AT gun would 1 shot any tank.
List goes on.