Tiger vs Tiger ace

[Scramble]

Is the tiger ace stats so much better than normal tiger that people are willing to sacrifice from 13 CP to 17 CP, reduced ressource income, a single tank entire game?

[Nequis]

Tiger Ace is useless,it's the same as a Vet3 normal Tiger,moreover now that they removed it's stun round which was it's only pro in tank vs tank combat.

[Mark]

No, not since it's armor got nerfed and you lose a tiger anyways it's only a delay on your losing match if you don't have enough fuel. Though I used to get the tiger ace a lot in 4v4 but realized regular tiger and elefant are almost always better.

But I just like the stun grenade too much so I'll take the ace for da lolz

[Stridswombat]

Tiger ace is a free comeback chance for a game you're losing. You can outplay your opponent and take preferentual tank engagement all you like, doesn't matter if your opponent suddenly gets a Tiger Ace you have no answer to and now wipes the board.

It's a get out of jail free card.

[CursedPanther]

Originally posted by StridsWombat:

It's a get out of jail free card.

Not entirely free, as it trades your manpower income for the P6 Ace.

[Robin]

Originally posted by CursedPanther:

Originally posted by StridsWombat:

It's a get out of jail free card.

Not entirely free, as it trades your manpower income for the P6 Ace.

Aye, it's actually very expensive (it also basically cuts out your fuel income). But it's, at its worst, a vet-3 Tiger that you called in with only manpower. At its worst, it's still that, but...so very expensive.

Still, I think the cost is well spent. It's a fantastic tool for swinging a match back into your favor, or just use it to dive and deal a lot of damage to make up your costs.

[Stridswombat]

When you just had your tanks sniped and you're out of fuel, a bit of MP is nothing for getting a large heavy. If you're already losing and can't hold unto map control as is, the resource penalty hardly matters.

Either you lose, which you would have anyway, or you do enough damage with it before suicide rushing it and letting you die to get back into the game.

I've lost 1v1's where I have wiped out my opponents entire tank force, taken both fuel points, had a croc standing by to handle his infantry... Then he gets a Tiger Ace. Not something a lone Cromwell or Firefly quickly scrambled up will deal with. It doesn't matter if it costs some more MP, it's not like a heavy is cheap on MP regardless. It let him trade his tanks into my AT which normally would be GG then get a vet 3 heavy.

[CatMeowMeow]

Tiger ace still got 1240 health. and increased line of sight.

Still Without Troop training I don't see reason to use that doctrine. Spearhead better.

[Lonely Riderrr]

Originally posted by CatMeowMeow:

Tiger ace still got 1240 health. and increased line of sight.

Still Without Troop training I don't see reason to use that doctrine. Spearhead better.

And there's a bulletin that increased it even more (+10%?)

... but it definetly ain't that kind of come back unit that would really change the game from uneven odds.

If you're against multiple allied tanks, you don't stand a chance because it's so slow.
vs multiple T34/85, Sherman E8 / Comet or Firefly = no way.

It really should have some kind of target weak point or stun + smoke and blitz.

[Midare-Saki]

honestly i dont find any difference at all, maybe range is better if something sights for it, but i see no reason to use it unless its for those stun grenades. but it is true that tigers, elephants and aces last longer by a tiny fraction

[CatMeowMeow]

Originally posted by KAOR_N:

honestly i dont find any difference at all, maybe range is better if something sights for it, but i see no reason to use it unless its for those stun grenades. but it is true that tigers, elephants and aces last longer by a tiny fraction

1240 health is same as King Tiger, A lot difference.

[Nequis]

Originally posted by StridsWombat:

Tiger ace is a free comeback chance for a game you're losing. You can outplay your opponent and take preferentual tank engagement all you like, doesn't matter if your opponent suddenly gets a Tiger Ace you have no answer to and now wipes the board.

It's a get out of jail free card.

You have no answer at 17 Cpoints? Then means it's not a comeback for the opponent,means it's just for lolz cause you already lost.

Originally posted by StridsWombat:

I've lost 1v1's where I have wiped out my opponents entire tank force, taken both fuel points, had a croc standing by to handle his infantry...

Same as above,if you have whole map and you loose just because a Vet3 Tiger comes in then you probably deserved the loss,considering 1v1s rarely goes on until 17 points are you telling me all game long you couldn't read what doctrine he was using and wouldn't call in an Ace sooner or later?

[TheRealAnusBoi]

You forgot to mention the distinct yellow paint on the tank - to strike fear into the hearts of it's enemies

[Jabroni]

I hadn't played Ina couple years and my setup included the tiger ace and the health perk. So cheap for a second shot.

[flammenwerfer]

Originally posted by Stridswombat:

Tiger ace is a free comeback chance for a game you're losing. You can outplay your opponent and take preferentual tank engagement all you like, doesn't matter if your opponent suddenly gets a Tiger Ace you have no answer to and now wipes the board.

It's a get out of jail free card.

ya once i had like 24 points left and the other team had about 200 and had 2 of the 3 points
i was able to use the tiger ace to win the game

[CatMeowMeow]

No Necro please.
Tiger ace have been changed since.