Elefant vs Tiger

[Pork]

The Elefant is slower, has the same gun,but better arnor.

While the Tiger is faster, turreted, and has the same gun.

Is the Elefant for hold defensive positions, and the Tiger for offensive?

[CursedPanther]

They have the same gun caliber historically. They perform completely different in the game however.

[ChocolateStarfish]

The Elefant has the 8,8-cm-PjK 43/2 L/71 cannon and the Tiger has the 8,8-cm-KwK 36 L/56.
> Elefant has the better Cannon.

[Lonely Rider]

Originally posted by KV-II:

The Elefant is slower, has the same gun,but better arnor.

While the Tiger is faster, turreted, and has the same gun.

Is the Elefant for hold defensive positions, and the Tiger for offensive?

Elefant is the tool to win 3vs3 and 4vs4 matches where you need to tear down allies tanks for good.

Tiger I like KT, is good for area denial, against all targets.
Both of them has little or no use in offensive manner.

In 4vs4 one player should always have either elefant or jagdtiger.

[daelin4]

Elefant is sloweer, has more range but no turret. Naturally you use that unit in a very different manner than Tiger or any turret vehicle for that matter.

Calibre of gun isn't relevantn neither historically nor in this game, the Panther's 75mm is far more effective than Panzer4's, and certainly StuG E's; all three are 75mm calibre. Fun fact the 75mm PzGr 39 shell they used were identical, but the casings were different so you can't just stick any 75mm shell into any 75mm gun. Length, both in terms of barrel and shell, mattered more than calibre, which was why the Germans relied on 37mm and 50mm more than 75mm during the early war years.
Later on, the British 17pdr at 76.5mm was just as effective as Tiger's 88mm- munitions, velocity and barrel length determined effectiveness more than diametre. In this case, the M10's 3inch gun of same calibre performed poorly by comparison.

Anyways yes, Elefant is to hold ground, Tiger goes in guns blazing.

[Nequis]

Tiger is just to hold the line like an IS2,still both of them suck badly. Don't waste resources on a Tiger,just go for Stugs and P4s

[Glitshy]

Originally posted by ChocolateStarfish:

The Elefant has the 8,8-cm-PjK 43/2 L/71 cannon and the Tiger has the 8,8-cm-KwK 36 L/56.
> Elefant has the better Cannon.

The important thing to note here is that it's the same projectile, but a longer case with more powder and therefore more power. The barrel length (the L/71 and L/56) is also a considerable factor.

[Lonely Rider]

Originally posted by Glitshy:

Originally posted by ChocolateStarfish:

The Elefant has the 8,8-cm-PjK 43/2 L/71 cannon and the Tiger has the 8,8-cm-KwK 36 L/56.
> Elefant has the better Cannon.

The important thing to note here is that it's the same projectile, but a longer case with more powder and therefore more power. The barrel length (the L/71 and L/56) is also a considerable factor.

Not in the game.

[Glitshy]

Originally posted by Drude:

Originally posted by Glitshy:

The important thing to note here is that it's the same projectile, but a longer case with more powder and therefore more power. The barrel length (the L/71 and L/56) is also a considerable factor.

Not in the game.

It is. The Elefants gun is WAY more powerful than the tigers. The difference is actually bigger than IRL. The Elefant deals twice the damage and has almost twice the penetration.

[Mark]

Elefant is love, Elefant is life.

I stopped using tigers when they got killed in two seconds at full health 3 times in one match...

[ShodaN]

Originally posted by Mark:

Elefant is love, Elefant is life.

I stopped using tigers when they got killed in two seconds at full health 3 times in one match...

That only ever happens if you are stupid enough to stall for a heavy without support when there is already a ton of AT on the field.

[Vertigo!]

Elefant cause double damage than a tiger!. have better range. and his frontal is awesome.

but yes. is slower., and very vulnerable at short range.

is a great bait. if you plant some mines and add some hidden PAK40.

[tater]

tiger is in such a bad state right now i would consider it a medium tank with a heavy gun LOL. use the elephant if ur playing big team matches it actually bounces shots off the front.

[iZhuge]

Tiger I sucks, slower than a comet/t34-85/e8, less range than a firefly/su85/m36. So u can neither outrun nor outgun your enemy if u are in trouble.

Elephant cannot outrun, but outgun its opponents due to its range & damage.

I personally wouldnt use both of them. I have called in the elephant from time to time in sheer desperation to stem the tide of allied tanks, but only as a last resort.

the combination of stugs+brummbär or/and panther+panzerwerfer are more flexible. u can deploy them fast to each sector of the front.