Eagle Scouts in Feudal Age

[Devang]

How would this work? Does anyone want to see Eagle Scouts as a factor in feudal age warfare? They'll counter Archers, Skirmishers and Scouts. Won't be cost effective vs. Spearmen and get slaughtered by Men-at-Arms. Their high gold cost (50) would make them too cost prohibitive to be massed.

This will also mirror the Scout Cavalry line for other civs.

[Mamba]

OP

[kreexz]

Too strong I think, they counter 3 out of 5 feudal age units. Also faster than spears and M@A so would be very strong at raiding.

[TerminallyGrill]

Too OP, and counter scouts, so they'd be unmatched raiding units.

[Alqualunte]

The idea of enabling eagle scouts in feudal age isn't bad if to lower their HP a bit and to remove/reduce the bonus against cavalry.

[Devang]

Uh, wait a minute, just tested this. Eagle scouts get =NO= bonus vs. cavalry. Not in feudal.

Feudal age Inca eagle scout vs. chinese scout cavalry.

Eagle = 50 HP, 4 attack, 0 hack armour.

Scout = 45 HP, 3+2 attack, 0 armour.

Depending on who gets in the first hit, the scout cavalry wins with 9 or 5 HP remaining.

That means, if anything, the mesos will be paying a premium 50 gold for a unit against the old world's 80 food unit that is
1) MUCH slower than scout cavalry
2) Has lesser attack and
3) The same armour (0/2)

- Worse vs. Archers.

That's grossly UP, not OP. Infact, they'll need one attack point from the +3 they get, in feudal itself to even be viable as a feudal age unit.

Edit:

-Castle Age-

Eagle = 50 HP, 4+4 attack, 1 armour

Scout = 65 HP, 3+3 attack, 1 armour

Now the Eagle gets +2 bonus (should do 7/hit, does 9) and wins with 10 HP remaining.

[TerminallyGrill]

Huh, didn't know the bonus was restricted to castle age. Well then, if they get reasonably countered by Man at Arms and Scout Cavalry (and costing 50 gold, which is more expensive than any other unit and WILL limit your castle age time considerably) then I have no problem with feudal eagle scouts.