Portuguese campaign stage 3 too hard?

[Rödskägg]

Hi I have started with the campaign but get stuck on the stage 3 Portuguese campaign. In this campaign you get no vills at start and can choose between two scenarios to choose from, betray the prince or use him to raise an army from the surrounding villages.

I did choose to gather an army from the villages but when you are to turn against the Kiwa and destroy their castle you got no siege! Only one bombard cannon that can be found at sea, unfortunately I lost it and now there is no new possibility to defeat the Kiwi and take down their castle.

Have I missed anything? Otherwise I think this campaign is just to harsh agianst the player.... maybe next time I try and betray the prince instead.

[Filthydelphia]

Hi. I'm the designer for that campaign. Indeed, the bombard cannon you found was the best way to take out the castle. There is also a war elephant which can do some damage in conjunction with your units, although you will take a lot of losses.

The idea behind the design was that you had a build and destroy or a fixed force alternative. The premise behind fixed force is it is more tactical and you need to protect against losses as best you can.

I try to make my scenarios not punish the player too much for mistakes but because of the tactical nature of fixed force, I was less generous in this case. Try using your units to take down the building and if you can't do it, I recommend starting over.

[Rödskägg]

Thank you for your answer. I must say now that I know you read this that I overall think that the campaigns are great. Really funny and I like that you play with different ideas. I think the idea of choosing a fixed army vs the opportunity to build up with villagers is great! It is not that aspect which I question.

What I question is that it is quite unforgiven. For example I lost my cannon early and then it is practically game over. I you could found one ram or two elsewhere it would be easier. Also the units that Kiwa is spawning never ends and this makes it even harder. especially with gates with towers behind when you have no siege.

I also found campaign number two on portuguese to be quite challenging. Yellow does very early start spawning heavy (or even imperial) camels and other horses against your wood and you dont have that much time to build up.

However this must not be a bad thing. If you have played some multiplayer and are experienced to boom while you build troops you can still manage. And this difficulty might be a good surprise for theses kind of players. But one must also think on all the players which have returned to age of empires 2 HD and have not played since the original game came out 15 years ago. For those players that might not remeber how to play effiecntly these new campaigns must be very hard.

Again thank you for your answer and once again I think the new campaign is great. Really enjoying it!