mali and ethopians having cannons and gunpowder

[Freya]

i mean what the ♥♥♥♥ irl they could only dream of having this ♥♥♥♥, and the mali 80% faster university? why , because they perfectionized building ♥♥♥♥ out of mud? u gave them characteristics which do not belong to them, they shouldve been something like the meso american just with cav, i mean even the chinese (which invented gunpowder) do not get cannons (except in the campaign for the mongols which is funny xD)

[Filthydelphia]

Painting from the Church of Debre Berhan depicting Ethiopian infantry armed with muskets.[www.warfare.altervista.org]

[Freya]

invalid this is 18th century

[Anaverageguy41]

Except because of Portugese and other European explorers they did have cannonry and gunpowder?
Especially the Ethiopians, bordering the Ottoman empire an all

[Akirin]

Aztecs, Mayans and Incas have got galleons, trebuchets and petards. It's called balance.
About the university I don't know, the Mali Empire was famous for his wealthy trade routes. Maybe a bonus to the market or the trade cart would be better.

[Freya]

yeah but these things are already given away to saracens and spain(market buff), tho they could make it a team bonus that their carts would move faster

[Dysanius]

We have to give the Africans quotas in education or else it's racist.

[Paul]

80% unniversity because of the amazing universities/ formal education program that the empire of Mali created.

[Filthydelphia]

Freya,

It's not invalid because we know they used cannons and firearms in the 16th century:

The Ethiopian–Adal war was a military conflict between the Ethiopian Empire and the Adal Sultanate from 1529 until 1543. The Imam Ahmad ibn Ibrihim al-Ghazi (nicknamed Gurey in Somali and Gragn in Amharic (ግራኝ Graññ), both meaning "the left-handed") came close to extinguishing the ancient realm of Ethiopia, and converting all of its subjects to Islam; the intervention of the European Cristóvão da Gama, son of the famous navigator Vasco da Gama, helped to prevent this outcome. Many historians trace the origins of hostility between Somalia and Ethiopia to this war. Some historians also argue that this conflict proved, through their use on both sides, the value of firearms such as the matchlock musket, cannons, and the arquebus over traditional weapons. Imam Ahmed was the first African commander to use cannon warfare on the continent during the Adal's conquest of the Ethiopian Empire under Dawit II.

[Filthydelphia]

The Malian university bonus is a nod to the University of Sankore in Timbuktu, founded by Musa in the early 14th century.

[Little Jimmy]

ur post is awesome! if there was a like button id totally like that ♥♥♥♥ right now!!

[TheBattler]

Originally posted by Freya ☠:

i mean what the ♥♥♥♥ irl they could only dream of having this ♥♥♥♥, and the

Ethiopians most certainly had Cannon Galleons and muskets, although there isn't very much evidence of them having especially powerful land cannons like their unique technology suggests. Basically, the Ethiopians siege prowess was made up but your gripes with them were not.

Malians having gunpowder is a little weird but gameplay balance is a priority over historical accuracy.

mali 80% faster university? why , because they perfectionized building ♥♥♥♥ out of mud?

There were several Universities in the Mali Empire that attracted all types of people from all over the Muslim world to go study there. Malians kept many copies if ancient ass books, and in fact just a few months ago terrorist groups captured some of those ancient universities and burned those books.

[Devang]

Just a heads-up, the topic creator is a racist neo-nazi troll. I've had the misfortune of interacting with her/him previously.

[Ham]

Originally posted by Devang:

Just a heads-up, the topic creator is a racist neo-nazi troll. I've had the misfortune of interacting with her/him previously.

Because this guy said so

[Freya]

just a heads-up, the comment creator is a anti free-speech tumblr sjw ive had the misfortune of interacting with him/her previously

[schiсksal]

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