Counter eagle and pikes as Magyars

[Britonix]

I just played against Aztecs as Magyars. I had a fairly good start, got a few vil picks with my drush and wiped a big ball of archers with scouts and skirms in feudal. This led me to have fairly good momentum half way into castle age with a good ball of about twelve knights which I could get 2-3 vil picks with.

I scouted that my opponent was going eagle and pikes. Since I had the knights to counter the eagles, I just decided to throw in a bunch of skirms behind. Although, this was a total failure. Knights and skirms got destroyed and I ended up starting to pump my fully upgraded food-only magyar hussars with nothing to protect them from the pikes and just got wrecked.

What should I have done to counter the eagles and pikes?

[Ratio decidendi]

Depends on numbers, but one could add xbow to deal with the pikes (CA would be easier to micro alongside Kts but considering early Castle eco can't handle both). With control groups and hotkeys, micro shouldn't be too difficult.

[The Lyre]

((Another) )Hardcounter to infantry are mangonels and scorpions, ofc.

[Geojak]

Eagles take bonus damage from militia line. Lingsswoards aren’t a great unit but this time they could have shunned. They also beat pikes. I think Magyar got fully upgraded champions.


Magyar got terrible Siege at imp and eagles are good at taking out scorpions if not in a extreme choke point.

[Fanta Morgana]

Originally posted by Geojak:

Eagles take bonus damage from militia line. Lingsswoards aren’t a great unit but this time they could have shunned. They also beat pikes. I think Magyar got fully upgraded champions.


Magyar got terrible Siege at imp and eagles are good at taking out scorpions if not in a extreme choke point.

Magyar got Champions but are missing the final Infantry armor tech and squires, but if you face a bunch of Pikes and Eagles they should still be good enough.

Also Magyar Siege is ok, since they got Siege engineers in one of the more recent updates.

[Geojak]

Eagles have good enough pierce Armor and are fast. Pikes Deal high damage to cav archer. If you can’t retreat any further the cav archer will die or you lose your base.

Escpecially if the Aztec adds rams which he always should.

Mixing cav archer with champions should work great thought