I have original cds can i have the games on steam?

[HunterSouls]

I have AOE II vanilla plus CONQUERORS, any possibility have on steam without use old cds, if i prove i have original cds and cd set? I payed that time 36€ and now pay again for one think i have its hard thank for any attencion and info can provided.

[Laptop]

No, you will need to pay again.

You would have bought the original game about 15+ years ago right? Surely it is warranted now to pay again.

[Dutchgamer1982]

Nope and why would you want to HAVE stinking steam DRM on your rare OWNED copy?
your old OWNED licence is valued FAR MORE than this steam LEASED licence.
-> if you still have the original cardbox boxes and manuals and posters and such in perfect condition, there migh even be some value in that if you would secondhand sell it (still looking for a near mint condition conquerers expantion box 1st edition, no gold edition or combined deal box and those go for fairly high prices at amazon, where I cannot buy because well we dutch pay with ideal online while those pages not offer that payment option.

nevertheless, even if you wanted to, the answer is no.
-steam licence = steamlicence, retail licence = retail licence, not the same thing.
While some retail games require registring at steam to operate, if thats not the case no steam licence for you.

It does not matter what you paid, I paid around 100 euro for those 2 games (actually 230 guilders as I bought them before euro's existed) but I too had to rebuy it for on steam.

You can add some non-steam games to your steam account after you installed them, if you want too, but why would you want that, it would ruin your valueble licence.
(besides even if you did this you could not download the game of steam, and would still require the cd's to install and play and you would not get achievements, or cards or such)

so if it's not steam, it never will become steam, even if the game is on steam.
And while it mostly is the same game, this is sold as age of empires 2 HD, and seen as a remake, and hence not even the same game as age of empires 2 (without the HD)
-the expantion packs sold on steam cannot install nor would work with the old version.

[Dutchgamer1982]

Laptop65 a écrit :

No, you will need to pay again.

You would have bought the original game about 15+ years ago right? Surely it is warranted now to pay again.

that last line I disagree with. it is NEVER ok to pay for the same product twice.
-you paid to own the product forever.
(though you did not play for steam support, and such, it would have been nice to at least make retail only, non steam expantion packs for african kingdoms available)

-the forgotten is already available as a mod for classic age of empires 2

[Laptop]

Dutchgamer1982 a écrit :

that last line I disagree with. it is NEVER ok to pay for the same product twice.
-you paid to own the product forever.
(though you did not play for steam support, and such, it would have been nice to at least make retail only, non steam expantion packs for african kingdoms available)

-the forgotten is already available as a mod for classic age of empires 2

The Steam version is not the same product that came in the retail box 15+ years ago.

[Jineapple]

Just play on Voobly, HD edition is more buggy and laggy anyway. All it has are the expansions, but the conquerors has a better balance anyway and offers replayability for years.

[Yuhaney]

As above said. Go to Voobly and use their UserPatch. Works better than the current HD Edition. Only downside is that there is no Workshop and the new Expansions (DLC).

[HunterSouls]

Dutchgamer1982 a écrit :

Nope and why would you want to HAVE stinking steam DRM on your rare OWNED copy?


nevertheless, even if you wanted to, the answer is no.
-steam licence = steamlicence, retail licence = retail licence, not the same thing.
While some retail games require registring at steam to operate, if thats not the case no steam licence for you.

The reason is i dont wish need use all time cd to play, idk if is legal i crack original cd to nocd play!!
Sega give to all people steam keys of warhammer40k to all have original cd key, that why i asked if the microsoft can do the same

[HunterSouls]

Reparcsemag a écrit :

As above said. Go to Voobly and use their UserPatch. Works better than the current HD Edition. Only downside is that there is no Workshop and the new Expansions (DLC).

IDK that thanks for tip, iam a big fan of AOE and EE :) i play a lot when i was a child

[HunterSouls]

omg thanks a lot for Voobly is better then gameranger..now there are 1586 Players on Age of Empires II: The Conquerors so cool

[Dutchgamer1982]

HunterSoulsPT a écrit :

Dutchgamer1982 a écrit :

Nope and why would you want to HAVE stinking steam DRM on your rare OWNED copy?


nevertheless, even if you wanted to, the answer is no.
-steam licence = steamlicence, retail licence = retail licence, not the same thing.
While some retail games require registring at steam to operate, if thats not the case no steam licence for you.

The reason is i dont wish need use all time cd to play, idk if is legal i crack original cd to nocd play!!
Sega give to all people steam keys of warhammer40k to all have original cd key, that why i asked if the microsoft can do the same

no cd crack is legal
you own a legal licence code, you used it to install the game.

[HunterSouls]

Dutchgamer1982 a écrit :

HunterSoulsPT a écrit :

The reason is i dont wish need use all time cd to play, idk if is legal i crack original cd to nocd play!!
Sega give to all people steam keys of warhammer40k to all have original cd key, that why i asked if the microsoft can do the same

no cd crack is legal
you own a legal licence code, you used it to install the game.

Sorry but that isnt true or depend of enterprise ( i have commander&conquer 1st decade and forum of there give unofficel patch to nocd on the forum )...new pcs dont have cd/dvd drive so i have create a iso and is borring all the time mount iso

[Dutchgamer1982]

HunterSoulsPT a écrit :

Dutchgamer1982 a écrit :

no cd crack is legal
you own a legal licence code, you used it to install the game.

Sorry but that isnt true or depend of enterprise ( i have commander&conquer 1st decade and forum of there give unofficel patch to nocd on the forum )...new pcs dont have cd/dvd drive so i have create a iso and is borring all the time mount iso

if you own a retail disk with it comes an EULA, but local law supercedes the EULA.
in europe that EULA always says "ownership" meaning you are entiled to use the product AND make as many home copy's as you desire.
-compagnies are already compensated for that by all storage media having an added tax for this. (0.50 ct for dvd, about 2 euro per TB of HD/SSD, and for sd-cards it is about 10 ct per GB)

(this is why steam DRM screws us over so large and steam would be actually illigal and against EU law in many cases, but who is gonna start a lawsuit?)

Making a no-cd crack would qualify as making a home copy, and you have the right to make that.

ofcourse if you were living outside of europe laws may differ, but for those all retail disks, law generally always says ownership, and adding an no-cd crack, would be nothing else like instaling an electric motor or a new radio in the car you bough, totally legal.

[HunterSouls]

Dutchgamer1982 a écrit :

if you own a retail disk with it comes an EULA, but local law supercedes the EULA.
in europe that EULA always says "ownership" meaning you are entiled to use the product AND make as many home copy's as you desire.
-compagnies are already compensated for that by all storage media having an added tax for this. (0.50 ct for dvd, about 2 euro per TB of HD/SSD, and for sd-cards it is about 10 ct per GB)

(this is why steam DRM screws us over so large and steam would be actually illigal and against EU law in many cases, but who is gonna start a lawsuit?)

Making a no-cd crack would qualify as making a home copy, and you have the right to make that.

ofcourse if you were living outside of europe laws may differ, but for those all retail disks, law generally always says ownership, and adding an no-cd crack, would be nothing else like instaling an electric motor or a new radio in the car you bough, totally legal.

I total agree with you!!

Dutchgamer1982 a écrit :

(this is why steam DRM screws us over so large and steam would be actually illigal and against EU law in many cases, but who is gonna start a lawsuit?)

SIMPLE, JUST US are the real guilty to support then own actions!!! Now i understand why a lot people buy games on Gog at lest are free from SCAM DRM ...
Thanks for all info, its so good see at lest are decent people in the foruns ..have all a nice day and gg

[Dutchgamer1982]

oh and about new pc's not having dvd drive..

build my new 6000 euro super pc like 8 months ago..
128GB ram, 1000 euro CPU, 980ti SLI, and more..
and you sure bet it has a dvd drive.
(well actually a blue ray burner ofc)
-not on that new pc's don't need dvd train.. if for nothing else, how does one install an operation system on it err? no that does not come installed with it, at least not if you buy a real pc.
-an usb with a disk immage, ok, so you gonna need a second pc to install it, and how is than handy?
-an iso, and how are you going to run that without anything installed?

It's just as when they said floppy drives were dead, they were about a decade premature.
I know many say you won't need dvd drive, I'm not buying it.

I prefer buying my games retail.. and for most I do, sadly many require registrating at steam.
-and I buy from GoG when possible
(if they add an Ideal payment option to GoG that would help in that regard, now I need to ask around each time for who owns a credit card)

oh and about the steam sales.. generally the same games retail disks ARE cheaper to buy even today.
I have so many games that I bought retail for 4.99-6.99 while on steam they were selling for like 30-40 euro, if you look around you can get far better deals, and you won't have to wait till steam sales.
-on average steam is about 20-40% more expensive than retail, how they keep that "buy with us save on your games" trick up.. is really clever marketing..

not that i buy to save euro's..
I actually like the offline control those disks give me.
no big brother watching over my back as I install them.
no online service where I need to register that will be gone in a decade leaving those disk unplayable.
(and generally they are installed faster, as I won't have to wait untill files are downloaded from some server)
that I use no-cd codes and iso's to not need to grab the cd every time I wish to play after I installed it, that I do, so that is not a problem either.
-oh and the neat shelf of glory of jewel cases and all the nice posters and fysical manuals to read, don't hurt either.

[HunterSouls]

Dutchgamer1982 a écrit :

oh and about new pc's not having dvd drive..

build my new 6000 euro super pc like 8 months ago..
128GB ram, 1000 euro CPU, 980ti SLI, and more..
and you sure bet it has a dvd drive.
(well actually a blue ray burner ofc)
-not on that new pc's don't need dvd train.. if for nothing else, how does one install an operation system on it err? no that does not come installed with it, at least not if you buy a real pc.
-an usb with a disk immage, ok, so you gonna need a second pc to install it, and how is than handy?
-an iso, and how are you going to run that without anything installed?

It's just as when they said floppy drives were dead, they were about a decade premature.
I know many say you won't need dvd drive, I'm not buying it.

I prefer buying my games retail.. and for most I do, sadly many require registrating at steam.
-and I buy from GoG when possible
(if they add an Ideal payment option to GoG that would help in that regard, now I need to ask around each time for who owns a credit card)

oh and about the steam sales.. generally the same games retail disks ARE cheaper to buy even today.
I have so many games that I bought retail for 4.99-6.99 while on steam they were selling for like 30-40 euro, if you look around you can get far better deals, and you won't have to wait till steam sales.
-on average steam is about 20-40% more expensive than retail, how they keep that "buy with us save on your games" trick up.. is really clever marketing..

not that i buy to save euro's..
I actually like the offline control those disks give me.
no big brother watching over my back as I install them.
no online service where I need to register that will be gone in a decade leaving those disk unplayable.
(and generally they are installed faster, as I won't have to wait untill files are downloaded from some server)
that I use no-cd codes and iso's to not need to grab the cd every time I wish to play after I installed it, that I do, so that is not a problem either.
-oh and the neat shelf of glory of jewel cases and all the nice posters and fysical manuals to read, don't hurt either.

Sir with all respect in modern days no one like install dvd SO windows when u can use USB Pendriver and install less half the time from normal dvd, and notebook i speak not normals computers not come with blue ray (is opcional)...I can put all if need a adapter dvd/blue ray driver usb 3.0...but for what? 1-4 games i need that? i love digital games and retail i just put in my own collecion :)
About sales and gog and do the same but infortunaly most multiplayers are on steam like or not this is the true,not for mencion the workshops...