DayZ
Jouchebag 28 DIC 2013 a las 8:39
DayZ might go down in history as the worst gaming community ever...
Elistism doesn't even begin to describe the generally crappy people that make up this game's community. And before you jump on the "You don't own the game" bandwagon, there's a DayZ mod out that has even more features and it's the same community.

Hardly ever helpful or nice in game or out. People have problems and questions they get responses like "lern2play" and "I got 1000 hours in the mod, you just suck."

Playing ARMA and DayZ are often described as "keyboard dancing" which sounds about as much fun as any rhythm game (I miss Freq/Amplitude), except in this one pretty much everyone wants you dead. DDR would have been a lot less fun if someone was swinging a club at your head while you danced on a 104 button mat without onscreen directions.

So there is an established learning curve, no one can dispute that. The problem stems from people feeling like they don't want to trade their secrets and skill to help bring up another possible challenger. Banditry isn't pervasive because of the type of game, it's because the skill difference between a good player and a bad one is so wide that even average bandits seem Godly to a guy fresh off the boat. As long as you can rack up easy kills solo, and move much more unnoticably solo, why bother being dragged down by a group or being nice to people?

This could be alleviated by encouraging groups through perks and discouraging banditry by not offering soloists or bandits perks. I've even seen creative ways to identify bandits mentioned as well. All of that falls to the wayside because these elistist hardcore folks jump in with platitudes about what they think a hardcore game should be and not once mention what is and isn't fun about being murdered before you have a chance to even figure out how to crouch.

At least ARMA has a tutorial.

People willing to defend this terrible Alpha to the death when they could go back to the (better) mod really don't make sense. This was the most obvious three-weeks-to-Christmas cash grab I've ever seen. That doesn't mean it won't get better, but Bohemia already knew people would gobble up anything with the name DayZ attached so why try THAT hard? Well, they didn't.

*spreads vitriol like mushroom spores*

They should have banned me longer. Actually, they shouldn't have banned me at all for saying a censored word. "Heartheartheartheart you." is hardly offensive. But they needed to keep me away during Christmas week, lest I scare a few more people away from this garbage.
Última edición por Jouchebag; 28 DIC 2013 a las 8:39
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Høst 28 DIC 2013 a las 14:54 
Publicado originalmente por Jouchebag:
The problem is that there's absolutely nothing stopping a fully geared player from camping noobs on the beach and there's been a good amount of people on the forums complaining of just that. I'm sure the average DayZ player is too prideful to reduce themselves to foraging "low level zones" but there are plenty of a-holes out there who just want to make a new player never pick up the game again.

Dude you are missing the whole point of the game. The fear level you suffer as a result failed attempts hones your skills. You will learn what works and what doesnt, when you first walk onto the North West Airfield you will feel a huge sense of pride. I was mercilessly slaughtered initially but i learnt to survive.

Bandits are mostly complete bastards but that what i love about killing them. Stay away from the coast. I understand you may not know the map but you can also navigate by the sun. Anywhere beyond the coast is marginally safer.
=>TargeT<= 28 DIC 2013 a las 15:09 
After getting spawn killed on the beach a lot and losing my fully geared avatar to a camping dodo, i am totaly done whit this game . its a waist of money at this time in progress .
AND YES I BLAME IT ON THE PLAYERS , i mean running around in underwear along the spawnpoints fully geared....come on get a life.

Don't start about skills and how hard this game is to play.
CONTROLS ON THIS GAME ARE FUBAR.
Melee is just a good lauch.
And like i sad before.....people that play this (spawnkilling players whit no weapons) fail big time at other games, cause then someone is shooting back.

At this point in devolopment off this game it is the worse game ever.
And gamers community is not helping in its favor.
1 year from now this game will be death as a dodo.
Publicado originalmente por BCC=>TargeT<=:
After getting spawn killed on the beach a lot and losing my fully geared avatar to a camping dodo, i am totaly done whit this game . its a waist of money at this time in progress .
AND YES I BLAME IT ON THE PLAYERS , i mean running around in underwear along the spawnpoints fully geared....come on get a life.

Don't start about skills and how hard this game is to play.
CONTROLS ON THIS GAME ARE FUBAR.
Melee is just a good lauch.
And like i sad before.....people that play this (spawnkilling players whit no weapons) fail big time at other games, cause then someone is shooting back.

At this point in devolopment off this game it is the worse game ever.
And gamers community is not helping in its favor.
1 year from now this game will be death as a dodo.

aaaw, Just logged in and died? Where you like that other guy complaning he died when sorting out his inventory. In the middle of a field?

Good riddance mate. Good Riddance ;)
Høst 28 DIC 2013 a las 15:21 
Publicado originalmente por BCC=>TargeT<=:
After getting spawn killed on the beach a lot and losing my fully geared avatar to a camping dodo, i am totaly done whit this game . its a waist of money at this time in progress .
AND YES I BLAME IT ON THE PLAYERS , i mean running around in underwear along the spawnpoints fully geared....come on get a life.

Don't start about skills and how hard this game is to play.
CONTROLS ON THIS GAME ARE FUBAR.
Melee is just a good lauch.
And like i sad before.....people that play this (spawnkilling players whit no weapons) fail big time at other games, cause then someone is shooting back.

At this point in devolopment off this game it is the worse game ever.
And gamers community is not helping in its favor.
1 year from now this game will be death as a dodo.


Why were you on the beach? The most populated area, the SPAWN POINT??
Fully geared? I doubt it, a player with the skill to acquire full gear would know to avoid the coast.
Later man, go play angry birds or something.
Última edición por Høst; 28 DIC 2013 a las 15:21
The Merging Obelus 28 DIC 2013 a las 15:22 
have any of you ever played Eve online?

Figured that much..

I heard the League of Legends community was terrible... but after eve... it was just meh...

Última edición por The Merging Obelus; 28 DIC 2013 a las 15:23
pslfla2 28 DIC 2013 a las 15:28 
Well, im my opinion all this killing will do in the end is water the game down once enough people complain about it. And to keep and get more players, the developers WILL cater to the majority rather than the few who think it's "L33T" to kill as many people as they can.
The same thing happened in Ultima Online which was a great and fun game till the hackers and griefers went crazy on it and and caused them to split it into shards and zones. (Played it for years until it got to the point where i was tired of being ganged up on and being killed constantly)
When you log on and are immediately killed by a player or a group of players, and then repeatedly after that time after time, the game gets old and people will stop playing it.
PvP IS fun, but too much of it isn't neccessarily a good thing. (Look at the CoD and BF games)
There needs to be a balance imho..
ThisCatStreams 28 DIC 2013 a las 15:31 
I've enjoyed it and I'm a newbie to the game. I played a few days of the Arma 2 DayZ mod with a friend. But found a group for DayZ Alpha.

You complain about the community but then call the game a cash and grab.

A fine example of a cash and grab would be The Walking Dead Survival Instinct or Infestation Survivor Stories. Since that has only just got cars for one server and The Walking Dead was a mess.

At least Rocket has a passion for the game.

The stand alone offers the game to be a lot more stable and add features that couldn't of been added before due to mod limitations. But what people won't take note of is that it will take time.

You can't judge a game because someone writes/shouts abuse at you. That's just petty.

I think you don't understand the game because the talk of perks is silly. The perks are making a plan with a group. I do it in my group. i.e four man group. Two go loot the city someone sits on a hill and covers them and one guy watches our snipers back. One person can't do that.

I'm not disagreeing that the game doesn't have its issues but you can't deny it is a game in Alpha. If the game was at least in the end stages of its Beta then I might agree with you. But for the most part I have had fun playing it.
Høst 28 DIC 2013 a las 15:33 
Publicado originalmente por pslfla2:
Well, im my opinion all this killing will do in the end is water the game down once enough people complain about it. And to keep and get more players, the developers WILL cater to the majority rather than the few who think it's "L33T" to kill as many people as they can.
The same thing happened in Ultima Online which was a great and fun game till the hackers and griefers went crazy on it and and caused them to split it into shards and zones. (Played it for years until it got to the point where i was tired of being ganged up on and being killed constantly)
When you log on and are immediately killed by a player or a group of players, and then repeatedly after that time after time, the game gets old and people will stop playing it.
PvP IS fun, but too much of it isn't neccessarily a good thing. (Look at the CoD and BF games)
There needs to be a balance imho..

Look at the mod, everyone loved it. Those that dont should not play it and not lobby to have the game dynamic altered.
pslfla2 28 DIC 2013 a las 15:42 
I'm not saying it will be altered, it's just historically that's what likely will happen if enough people complain about it.
There's a million other games where you can PvP to your heart's content if you want that.
I like PvP, but not to excess. One on one, even the occasional groups, it's a lot of fun. But some people don't know WHEN to stop when it's excessive.
Última edición por pslfla2; 28 DIC 2013 a las 15:42
Høst 28 DIC 2013 a las 15:44 
Publicado originalmente por pslfla2:
I'm not saying it will be altered, it's just historically that's what likely will happen if enough people complain about it.
There's a million other games where you can PvP to your heart's content if you want that.
I like PvP, but not to excess. One on one, even the occasional groups, it's a lot of fun. But some people don't know WHEN to stop.

PvP is only excessive when you repeatedly make mistakes that get you killed. You must be a disciplined ghost to survive. This aint COD.
Der_Richter 28 DIC 2013 a las 15:56 
My two cents: One of the greatest ideas for an immersive online experience ever, and then it all ended with the dudebro kids showing up and destroying it. Sad. But, if this keeps them from starting dudebro wasteland servers that hardly run due to being hosted in their boy rooms on their crum laptops, clogging up my beloved Arma-community... Then by all means, stick to DayZ kids.
pslfla2 28 DIC 2013 a las 16:01 
True enough, but if you get killed often enough it get's frustrating and then you stop playing because why go into a game only to die?
You can play DayZ perfectly and that won't help you if 4+ players gang up on you most likely unless you have your own gang.
What happens when the hackers and the "Be the L33Test at any cost" crowd take over? Haven't seen many online games NOT have them.
PvP used to mean you tried to be the best now it's just seem's its just trying to be the biggest ******bag whatever the cost to anyone else.

Høst 28 DIC 2013 a las 16:05 
Publicado originalmente por pslfla2:
True enough, but if you get killed often enough it get's frustrating and then you stop playing because why go into a game only to die?
You can play DayZ perfectly and that won't help you if 4+ players gang up on you most likely unless you have your own gang.
What happens when the hackers and the "Be the L33Test at any cost" crowd take over? Haven't seen many online games NOT have them.
PvP used to mean you tried to be the best now it's just seem's its just trying to be the biggest ******bag whatever the cost to anyone else.


No most people dont quit. Most people persevere. If you are unwilling or unable then you shouldnt have bought the game. DayZ has been around for a while and it is well know how difficult it is. The people looking for an easy run should play something else.
eddie010 28 DIC 2013 a las 16:19 
hmm
Exeon 28 DIC 2013 a las 16:26 
It's pretty clear you haven't played:

DOTA, League of Legends, or Call of duty

Tell, me if a zombie apocolypse would happen, would you get a tutorial? or would you be zombie food whining for someone to take your hand and baby you threw the game?

Community? tell me, is this community toxic? does it wish cancer on others?(cos i've seen that ♥♥♥♥) does this community make you want to kill yourself? cos otherwise you haven't seen any of the games i've mentioned above or at least not enough to see it.



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