Arma 3 engine vs current DayZ engine

[DC]

Since Bohemia own DayZ, they should really opt to switch to the Arma 3 engine. This will likely result in less "bumps" as they continue development. Not to even mention decent playable framerate on high. A bow doesn't work, no fireplace added. God knows how they will even begin to think of implementing vehicles.

[Snowy]

Originally posted by Floki:

Originally posted by MrDooWolf:

I will honestly say that if you use the Arma 3 engine then the current work would be of waste :/ Then we will start back at 1.0 and we don't want that.

Surely they can use the Arma 3 engine and simply apply textures and create the map, use the same sounds. It will take a little time yes, but will benefit in the long run. If you play Arma 3, you see items like vitamin bottles and the Defib lying on the floor. So DayZ is using resources from Arma 3, the full game. Why not use the engine? I guess at this point in development it will be going backwards somewhat, however it would massively benefit DayZ as a whole to be on a fully stable engine with DX11 support.

But no offense the ARMA 3 engine is ♥♥♥♥ :P Multiplayer creates extreme FPS drops and Singleplayer plays better than MP. DayZ engine actually functions a bit better than the ARMA 3 engine in my opinion.

[☠ ﯼτіӀӀεл]

Originally posted by MrDooWolf:

Originally posted by Floki:

Surely they can use the Arma 3 engine and simply apply textures and create the map, use the same sounds. It will take a little time yes, but will benefit in the long run. If you play Arma 3, you see items like vitamin bottles and the Defib lying on the floor. So DayZ is using resources from Arma 3, the full game. Why not use the engine? I guess at this point in development it will be going backwards somewhat, however it would massively benefit DayZ as a whole to be on a fully stable engine with DX11 support.

But no offense the ARMA 3 engine is ♥♥♥♥ :P Multiplayer creates extreme FPS drops and Singleplayer plays better than MP. DayZ engine actually functions a bit better than the ARMA 3 engine in my opinion.

tbh multiplayer doesent create extreme FPS drops, ever played Arma 3 A&D, Arma 3 AAS, Arma 3 CTI, Arma 3 CTF, Arma 3 TvT objective???

all original multiplayer game modes, that some user made their own mission from like the really popular Arma 3 CTI teetimes EUTW. all these game modes run smooth like SP. multiplayer starts to get a bit laggy if you start missions like wasteland with 1000 objects on the map, in combination with a crappy PC and you get posts like these :)

[Snowy]

>Implying an AMD FX 8-Core with 16Gb DDR3 and Nvidia Quadro is ♥♥♥♥
>Claims MP doesn't create lag
You seriously have a problem xD I can hit the game at least 110FPS but when it drops to 75FPS something is wrong there :/

[Diogenes]

Originally posted by ﯼτіӀӀεл A-:

Originally posted by Floki:

My initial thread title would seem as if i'm complaining, but i'm really simply debating which engine would be ultimately better for DayZ SA.

RV4 engine would be better to start with, but they would have only begun developing a few weeks now.

but i think technicly you will achieve better results in RV3 engine, if it comes down to the basics its the same as RV4 but less needy on resoucres so more ppl can run it properly. i think RV3.5 buffed up engine was the right thing to do.

@cadderley if they would made dayz on arma 3 they would hit the same problems as in dayz on arma 2, the whole point of making it standalone was not to have arma mod limitations

also explain why SA is dead in the water :S

I know why they decided to make the Stand Alone.

My comment about this engine being dead in the water was an insinuation that people seem to be expecting this game to have failed before it has even been given a chance to get better. A lot of people seem to think that Day Z isn't going to improve. The Arma 3 engine too a fair bit of time too develop and perfect and Day Z will likely go down the same path, but over and over again people keep saying Arma 3 is better, or this is better, that's better without waiting too see what this product will be like when it's actually completed.

[☠ ﯼτіӀӀεл]

Originally posted by MrDooWolf:

>Implying an AMD FX 8-Core with 16Gb DDR3 and Nvidia Quadro is ♥♥♥♥
>Claims MP doesn't create lag
You seriously have a problem xD I can hit the game at least 110FPS but when it drops to 75FPS something is wrong there :/

thats what i said with crappy PC, with 1000 objects on the map and only a 32bit application, your processor will need all the raw processing power and the best multithreading. and we all know AMD sucks at these 2 things. the reason you get those drops is that your cpu is hitting its max and will have to unload some things that will make you drop fps. try switching over to i7 or lower your object detail

also dont test it on wasteland but search for cti map, i would reccoment EUTW teetimes cti warfare, really fun mode and runs smooth

[Snowy]

Originally posted by ﯼτіӀӀεл A-:

Originally posted by MrDooWolf:

>Implying an AMD FX 8-Core with 16Gb DDR3 and Nvidia Quadro is ♥♥♥♥
>Claims MP doesn't create lag
You seriously have a problem xD I can hit the game at least 110FPS but when it drops to 75FPS something is wrong there :/

thats what i said with crappy PC, with 1000 objects on the map and only a 32bit application, your processor will need all the raw processing power and the best multithreading. and we all know AMD sucks at these 2 things. the reason you get those drops is that your cpu is hitting its max and will have to unload some things that will make you drop fps. try switching over to i7 or lower your object detail

AMD is a gaming Processor you ♥♥♥♥ and Actually better than any Intel CPU. xD Do you even ITT?

[☠ ﯼτіӀӀεл]

http://static.techspot.com/articles-info/712/bench/CPU_03.png - look where your processor is, under all the intels

http://www.techspot.com/review/712-arma-3-benchmarks/

altough they say its a gaming product on the box, they actually use really cheap parts to make expensive stuff. just type in google amd vs intel and weep

[samlord]

Sooo dayz......

[Snowy]

>Use Cheap parts to make expensive Stuff
>Google AMD vs Intel and Weep
Okay first of all my 8 Core runs way better than my i7 and both are Oc'd so you cannot really say that Intel is better when you cannot afford either or. For research points I know that you are an Intel Fanboy just by seeing your post above. How about you use a blackboxed motherboard over your locked board there. You can buy the average 4 Core AMD product and out play that i5, i7 Series.

[☠ ﯼτіӀӀεл]

but not on arma 3, and currently im using amd 955 black on 4ghz.

also there have been 100 post about this and all they said intel is better for arma 3 because of the way they use hyperthreading and have raw processing power where in AMD the qualitys lies somewhere else, and sure for some games that are build on that it will run better than intel, but on arma 3 sadly no

[Snowy]

Originally posted by ﯼτіӀӀεл A-:

but not on arma 3, and currently im using amd 955 black on 4ghz

Oh I'm sorry that's a GeForce which is fully optimised for Intel products.

[Snowy]

Also before I leave... Muh benchmarks! Because Benchmarks matter over the actual gameplay itself.

[☠ ﯼτіӀӀεл]

you make no sense at all, please leave

[Shrapnel]

Originally posted by Cpanther:

They already said they moving the client side to 64 bits, hopefully that means the Arma 3 engine ; )

Oh WELCOME BACK, was the vacation relaxing? :)

[Shrapnel]

Originally posted by Floki:

Since Bohemia own DayZ, they should really opt to switch to the Arma 3 engine. This will likely result in less "bumps" as they continue development. Not to even mention decent playable framerate on high. A bow doesn't work, no fireplace added. God knows how they will even begin to think of implementing vehicles.

Stop development, switch engines and start over from page one.
You dont even realize what you're saying, I think.
Also, the arma 3 engine looks and feels like utter ♥♥♥♥ compared to the current one.
I play it for Altis life and everytime I come back to DayZ I immediately notice a difference in the environment and movement