Basebuilding

[Raithe]

I have left and come back to DayZ multiple times. It is always due to how bad Basebuilding is. DayZ is so far the most immersive post-apocalyptic zombie survival sandbox I have played.......Its so good in so many ways.

It is also an utter failure when it comes to base building.

Base building is simplistic, ugly, and clunky. You can build walls, gates, and a tower. That's it. Oh yeah...you can put up tents. Woo. I want to actually build walls, doors, floors, roofs, etc. I want to be able to build with different materials. This is the biggest failure in DayZ. You lock your gates with combo locks for bikes ffs........which are not even useful for locking up bikes as they are garbage. No chains, padlocks, deadbolts, codelocks, etc.

Since anyone can break in with almost no effort this renders the extremely LONG and painful process of building these bases utterly useless.

You are better off hiding a tent in the woods. and the tents suck bad too. The tent renders in before the camo you put on it so anyone can see you from a LONG ways away then when they get close it blends in.

[Longhaul]

You apparently never played a server with base building mods.....

[Karmaterrorᵁᴷ]

Something i dislike about it, and a lot of other games is how every part is the same dimensions. Like all the walls are the generic (6ft?) long wall piece. so when we need to complete a circle we have to painstakingly reposition wall sections so it lines up. Stuff like a half length wall, or a single fence post to fill in gaps should be pretty easy additions.

I wouldnt like it to go too far though, simple roofs and doors yeah, but not people building proper brick houses out in the woods. That would start to feel like we are playing an actual building game, the bases need to match the aesthetic of a zombie apocalypse. I feel like more diversity in the "buildings" part list, mixed with all the "props" we can already use (barrels, tents, crates, chests, gardens, generators, lights) and it would be a great building kit.

Going to take this chance to mention the lighting bug again as well. The one where props out of FOV dont render, so a fire barrels light spills out all over camp when you arent looking at it. This needs sorting imo.

I enjoy the basebuilding, its kinda what i do with my time on dayz. I feel like its already a good kit, but with some love could be a really great one :)

[Faitheal]

Vanilla Base building is fine, and many people feel it is excellent, preferring it over modded. You just need to be creative. That being said, the base building mods on modded servers are so well-polished now that they will leave you wanting for nothing in terms of building.

[Raithe]

In vanilla it does not appear you can actually build a base. You can build fences, gates, and tower. I mean at best that is an encampment. Am I being confused somehow? Is there stuff that I am not finding? Can you actually place doors, ceilings, walls (not fences), stairs, etc?

The base mod looks like it would at least cover these basics. It still looks extremely basic.

[Karmaterrorᵁᴷ]

No you arent missing any building items, its fence (can add little ramps to them to shoot over), watchtower and gate, there is a lot more storage/prop items than tents though.

If you google image search "Dayz basebuilding concept art" theres a pencil drawing of a campsite, what they made was pretty spot on to that drawing (rendering maybe).

I think its supposed to be more of a "campsite" than a base. Id defo give the basebuilding mods a go, they do add a lot more options :)

[🆄🅽🅲🅻🅴 🅹🅾]

If there's a major fault in Vanilla base building, it's the lack of a door, we only have a gate. Doors would make it so much easier to fortify a building with multiple doors, as one has to do in modded if you want to keep your base secure.

A "base" in Vanilla with a single wall surrounding it is little more than a camp, and can be broken into in minutes, a fortified building with 4 or 5 doors would be a different matter, but since there is no code locks, getting in and out of your base is going to be a frustrating hurdle, given that stupid bicycle lock.

Towers is another useless feature, I gave up on those a long time ago as they serve little purpose other than as a beacon to advertise your camp.

I found that one or two mill tents out in the sticks somewhere, with a perimeter wall around it and some buried stashes in the vicinity, is about the best you can do.

[Enforcer]

Yep. Needs more doors.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2144245573

[Karmaterrorᵁᴷ]

Originally posted by 🆄🅽🅲🅻🅴 🅹🅾:

Towers is another useless feature, I gave up on those a long time ago as they serve little purpose other than as a beacon to advertise your camp.

I never build towers to full size because of that. Just one floor above ground and let the next floor be its roof. Half walls on the upper floor and its a nice short watchtower.

Had a funny thought about doing those lord of the rings signal fires with a bunch of full sized watchtowers :D

[🆄🅽🅲🅻🅴 🅹🅾]

Originally posted by Karmaterrorᵁᴷ:

Originally posted by 🆄🅽🅲🅻🅴 🅹🅾:

Towers is another useless feature, I gave up on those a long time ago as they serve little purpose other than as a beacon to advertise your camp.

I never build towers to full size because of that. Just one floor above ground and let the next floor be its roof. Half walls on the upper floor and its a nice short watchtower.

Had a funny thought about doing those lord of the rings signal fires with a bunch of full sized watchtowers :D

[CMDR WeeJet]

if you play server with base building plus or expansion.
you will learn why vanilla dayz base building is not awful.
whats awful is entire small towns having walls around them
or giant sniper towers next to high loot areas.

not to mention they just look ugly and dont fit in where the vanilla base building makes sense.

yes it could do with some improvements. but how it is is way better than what people think they want.