winter camo?

[Dissolution]

just hit my first military base in sakhal and ive ended up decked out in summer camo. patch notes said they added some winter variants but I think if im buying a winter themed DLC I would expect some dedicated winter clothing included. and they also mention that the loot on sakhal is tweaked to be more wintery but I have not found this to be the case.

is sakhal supposed to be a permanently frosty clime or are we just in the middle of a particularly cold winter? if the latter is true then thematically I would expect to find a lot of summer camo and clothing, if the former is true then I would expect to find almost exclusively winter camo and clothing. in either case, in a winter map im going to want to see winter clothing. I get that unusually cold weather in an otherwise temperate region could be an interesting scenario but ultimately if im playing a winter map I want to be decked out in winter camo.

[withered]

Havent found items - doesnt mean its not there. Patience is a key. Youre suppose to survive by all means.

[Dissolution]

Originally posted by withered:

Havent found items - doesnt mean its not there. Patience is a key. Youre suppose to survive by all means.

in my small sample size i have 100% summer camo gear in about 10 items in my 2 man squad. with all that i reasoned in my OP then lets say that we would reasonably expect to see 50:50 summer to winter camo. from the small sample size and by the way you are describing it it sounds like its more like 1 in 100 items are winter camo. so are we saying winter camo is like NVG levels of rarity in a winter map when this is the opposite of what was suggested in the patch notes - that there is more winter gear on sakhal?

and the civilian gear doesnt look much better, i dont think ive found one warm jacket. now you would say "all the good loot is taken, its a survival game". but in a winter climate, i would expect to see pretty much all the clothing being warm gear, so if i found any clothing, it should be warm.

so looking into it they have added is 2 padded jackets, 1 civilian and 1 police, a ghillie winter variant, a patrol pants winter variant and the new winter gear is called OMK. I would maybe expected more different types of winter clothing but also that they spawn more often. I get that they want the game to be hard, but I don’t expect to find shorts and t shirt in a winter map.

[_KC76_]

If you're finding "summer" camo, and by that I mean actual Military Gear intended for "summer" temps, you are probably finding things that other players have dropped when they found the "winter" gear, after server hopping from Livonia or Chernarus .. That siad, "military gear" is NOT the "best" insulated gear on the Map, with the OMK set being "high", along with the Field Jacket, and I think, the rest being "medium" .. The "best" insulated gear is Winter Hunting Camo, and the FireFighter gear.

[Dissolution]

Originally posted by _KC76_:

you are probably finding things that other players have dropped when they found the "winter" gear, after server hopping from Livonia or Chernarus

playing on a community vanilla server (not official) so there is no shared hive / server hopping

[_KC76_]

Originally posted by Dissolution:

Originally posted by _KC76_:

you are probably finding things that other players have dropped when they found the "winter" gear, after server hopping from Livonia or Chernarus

playing on a community vanilla server (not official) so there is no shared hive / server hopping

All rules go out the window when you are on a Community server .. Even with no downloaded Mods, the server may have changes many parts of the Loot Economy.

[Dissolution]

Originally posted by _KC76_:

Even with no downloaded Mods, the server may have changes many parts of the Loot Economy.

i know but i don't think they do. as i understand it the commonly accepted way to express this is to advertise the server as vanilla loot+, which this server doesn't and in the server info it describes the changes from vanilla but doesn't list any changes to the loot system.

[ꉔꏂ꒐꒒ꇙ]

Originally posted by Dissolution:

i know but i don't think they do. as i understand it the commonly accepted way to express this is to advertise the server as vanilla loot+, which this server doesn't and in the server info it describes the changes from vanilla but doesn't list any changes to the loot system.

They obviously don't know, especially with the "the server may have changes" if they don't know, they shouldn't speak as if they do.

Originally posted by Dissolution:

winter camo?

just hit my first military base in sakhal and ive ended up decked out in summer camo.

patch notes said they added some winter variants but I think if im buying a winter themed DLC I would expect some dedicated winter clothing included.

There shouldn't be any Summer type clothing in a "Winter" type DLC/Map. It should only have "winter type" clothing.

The hell you gonna do with Summer type clothing for the snow? sounds dumb to me. If they have "Summer" type clothing, I wonder if there is a desert/Summer type Map lol with nothing but heat.

Edit: I too thought the DLC only had winter clothing... guess I was wrong. They should list all the items (winter type) the DLC does offer and this "Summer" crap clothing.

[Dissolution]

Originally posted by ꉔꏂ꒐꒒ꇙ:

They obviously don't know, especially with the "the server may have changes" if they don't know, they shouldn't speak as if they do.

not sure what youre on about here. they obviously know what they are doing with the server. im just saying that i myself cant be sure that the list of changes from vanilla that they have given are truthful or comprehensive but i have no good reason to doubt they are

[baddoggs]

Originally posted by Dissolution:

Originally posted by _KC76_:

you are probably finding things that other players have dropped when they found the "winter" gear, after server hopping from Livonia or Chernarus

playing on a community vanilla server (not official) so there is no shared hive / server hopping

So, the loot is unbalanced. Modded servers can be like that.

[ꉔꏂ꒐꒒ꇙ]

Originally posted by Dissolution:

not sure what youre on about here.

It's fine, you don't understand what I meant. No problem.

[Schizo_Survivor]

Sort of unrelated, found the Bushal Jacket today, didn't even know it existed. Best insulation at worn/pristine and only 2 kgs, but not waterproof.

[_KC76_]

Originally posted by Dissolution:

Originally posted by _KC76_:

Even with no downloaded Mods, the server may have changes many parts of the Loot Economy.

i know but i don't think they do. as i understand it the commonly accepted way to express this is to advertise the server as vanilla loot+, which this server doesn't and in the server info it describes the changes from vanilla but doesn't list any changes to the loot system.

There is no "commonly accepted" use of terms like Vanilla+ or Vanilla+LootBoost .. It's literally a free-for-all and completely "unregulated" .. Community servers only have ONE rule they have to follow, and that is about being pre-approved for Monetization (and even this, is a gray area of enforcement).

[etwas]

Originally posted by Dissolution:

is sakhal supposed to be a permanently frosty clime or are we just in the middle of a particularly cold winter?

winter season. sakhal has a summer, not a warm one, but warm enough to explain summer clothes on the map. that "outbreak" could already have happened months ago.
also game/character progression. tier1 shouldnt spawn best insulation pants/jackets.

however they added winter clothing on sakhal: the bushlat, omk jacket, down jackets, navy uniform and some winter variants and removed other summer variants (gorka jackets for example).

Originally posted by Dissolution:

I would maybe expected more different types of winter clothing but also that they spawn more often.

they actually do. i think u have to play a bit more and leave tier1.

[Schizo_Survivor]

Found Ski Gloves yesterday, didn't know they existed. Wonder if there are Snow boots somewhere as well. They don't get wet and stay at best insulation, but the ones I found are Sky Blue so I keep them in my backpack unless a blizzard hits (or I find a boat).

[ꉔꏂ꒐꒒ꇙ]

Originally posted by Schizo_Survivor:

Found Ski Gloves yesterday, didn't know they existed. Wonder if there are Snow boots somewhere as well. They don't get wet and stay at best insulation, but the ones I found are Sky Blue so I keep them in my backpack unless a blizzard hits (or I find a boat).

Can you ski? would be cool to go up a snowy mountain and ski all the way down with some crazy ski movements. I am tired of the OG Maps and am ready for this map. Even if it'll kick my ass, I'd still be happy to see some snow fall with everything (mostly everything) covered in snow.

I was hoping they would just add a weather/seasonal system to the base game/maps. But I guess they'll release DLC for each. One is already Winter/snow focused, the next one Spring? Summer? idk, think of the weather system in "Don't Starve"